Saturday, February 28, 2015

MK Ultra CIA Assassin, Manchurian Candidate, Monarch Mind Control, Eddie Ray Routh



A police video displayed for the jury at Routh's trial, which began on February 11, 2015, showed police at Routh's home trying to coax him from Kyle's pickup. Officers in the video are seen trying to talk Routh into surrendering as he makes comments such as:

"The [expletive deleted] anarchy has been killing the world."

"I can feel everybody feeding on my soul."

"Is this about hell walking on earth right now?"

"Is voodoo all around us?," and "I didn't sleep a wink last night at all."

He also expressed concerns about being stalked by cats and at one point announced, "I need to take a nap" and said he wanted his parents to come home (his parent were out of town).

"There's no trust anymore."

Routh refused to leave the vehicle and eventually sped off with police in pursuit. He stopped six minutes later after a police vehicle rammed into the truck. Police video showed Routh opening the driver's-side door, emerging with his hands up, and sinking to the ground. He surrendered peacefully, police said. An officer is seen on the footage giving himself the sign of the cross.

One police officer, who happened to be a neighbor of Routh’s, was recorded by his body camera telling him: “I don’t want to hurt you, buddy. We all grew up together here.”

Routh reportedly told the police officer: “It happened so fast. I don’t know if I’m going insane.”

"I don't know if I'm just insane or sane, or I don't know what's even sane in the world right now."

"I've been so paranoid and schizophrenic all day, I don't know what to even think of the world."

Routh told police:

"It wasn't a want to. It was a need to, to get out of that situation out there today or I was going to be the one out there to get my head shot off."

After his arrest, he said:

"So nervous about what's gonna happen to me in my life today, I don't know what's gunna happen."




Why did law enforcement take Eddie's glasses from him before the interrogation? 

In the hour-long taped interrogation on the night of the murders of Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield, Eddie Ray Routh told a Texas Ranger that he had shot and killed both Kyle and Littlefield. The confession shows that Routh was likely not of sound mind, as he rambled on about souls and head hunters.

During his interrogation, Routh told the lead investigator on the case:

“There are tons of people who are eating on my soul right now.”

“I haven’t been able to sleep. I’ve been waiting for them to come back and eat my soul. I wish the world wasn’t such a soulless place.”

"The ones in the sky are the ones that fly, you know what I mean, the pigs."

"It smelled like shit. It smelled like sweet cologne. I guess it was love and hate, you know. I was smelling love and hate. They were giving me some love and hate."

“It wasn’t a want, it was a need… I was going to be the next one out there getting my head shot off.” [Routh said of killing the two men]

“I imagine they are head hunters, you know. They try and hunt everybody down that did wrong. I’m not trying to hunt down anyone that did wrong … Are you? I am pretty damn reasonable and fair … I was reasonable and fair to them boys.”

On what he did after the shootings: "The keys were already in the truck, it was pretty much given to me."

Briley was the first TX Ranger at the scene and the one who conducted the interrogation at the jail. He testimony is as follows:
It is 3.7 miles from the gun range to the entrance of Rouch Creek Lodge and Rough Creek Lodge is approximately five miles from Highway 67.

Briley said that is is 55.7 miles from the entrance of Rough Creek Lodge to James Watson's (Routh's uncle) home.

Total drive distance is approximately 105 miles from the gun range to Routh's home in Lancaster according to Briley.

Nash is asking Briley about his training in dealing with immediate interviews/interrogations of possible criminals or witnesses.

Briley says that he has had the responsibility of questioning several possible murder suspects. They frequently lie about their actions, and will not answer or attempt to change the subject, he says.

When Briley arrived to the Lancaster Police Department, Routh was brought in for Briley to begin questioning.

He arrived in the evening on Feb. 2, 2013. The interview was one-on-one between Briley and Routh.

Briley said to Routh on that day, "Hey I know you've had a tough day. I'd like to talk to you."

Showing compassion is a technique used to get answers out of suspects, Briley said. Routh agreed to speak with Briley.

Briley said there were multiple times that Routh would begin to "block" answers. Routh would realize that he needed to hide an answer when asked about drug usage that day, who was shot first, or what happened.

There were times that Briley would get bizarre answers from Routh. "I noted that he responded in a very philosophical manner at times," Briley said.

When he pinned Routh down on questions, it was clear that Routh knew what he had done was wrong, Briley said.

"Did the defendant confess to killing Chad Littlefield and Chris Kyle?" Alan Nash asked.

Briley responded, "Yes he did."

The court is being shown the video of Briley questioning Routh.

Routh is can be seen yawning in the tapes in his chair - hands cuffed behind his back. Clearly exhausted.

Routh looks like a completely different person in the tapes. Skinny, long black hair, scruffy face.

The tapes are from 11:30 pm and Routh can be seen wheeling over to the desk to rest his head.

After Briley read Routh his Miranda rights, Routh said, "It was so sad how it had to happen. Isn't there counselors to talk to people about this kind of stuff? People have to be held accountable."

Routh: "I've been having a pretty rough time of it."

Routh refers to Chris as The Wolf, "you know, the one in the sky," he said.

Routh is talking about being raised in Lancaster, how he graduated high school, and saying that he was a prison guard in the military.

Routh said the "first time I ever met either one of them was yesterday. They came and got me at my house and they took me to the country out there. We went and did some shooting sports, ya know... You know."

"I was reasonable and fair with the boys... You know," Routh said when asked what happened out at Rough Creek Lodge.

"Nobody wanted to talk to me about what was right. Everybody wants me to live for free on these farms and just shoot for a living." Routh

"I just wish this world wasn't such a soulless place. Just seems like there isn't a soup for the soul anymore," Routh said.

"I knew if I didn't take his soul, he was gonna take mine next. I'm just tired of playing chess with my life."

Routh continually changes the subject or stops talking every time Briley gets close to saying that the two were murdered.

"I can't just give you up my soul up for free," said Routh when Briley asked him what he did to Kyle and Littlefield

"The warlords aren't very happy with me. Everybody knows that. Everybody in town," Routh said.

"I told her that I killed me today. It wasn't a want; it was a need. I had to get out of that situation or I was going to be the next one to get my head shot," Routh said.

When asked if he has ever used meth, Routh says drugs are what's getting us into this war.

Routh says he did not use meth.

"I've been running on pure adrenalin for a few days." Routh

Briley asked, "How many did you have to kill today?"

Routh responds, "Two."

Routh confirms that he used a pistol to kill both. He also confirms that a 9mm was used.

Routh said their (Kyle and Littlefield) training wasn't as good and that his has been better.

He said he shot the "one that he couldn't identify" (Chad) first.

Routh said that being in the police station is the first time that he has felt safe in two days.

Routh said the shootings happened around 2:00 p.m.

Was there a drug bong in some of your stuff? "Uhhh...tobacco."

He asks about the bong again. "There may have been some pot."

Now Routh is talking about lacing his pot with other drugs. "It could have been wet."

Have you used today? "Yes sir, I've been trying to relax. It has been helping me."

"I've got some abandonment issues and trust issues."

"You can't always trust the weed in Texas. It's always laced up with drugs," Routh said.

Routh is asked what "These men, these heroes, told you today?"

"They told me stuff about their life experiences, but I've already seen this stuff across the pond," Routh said, "They talked to me pretty shitty."

"I loaded up a 45 and shot it," Routh said when asked if he shot anything at the range that day.

When asked if he shot anything else, he starred straight ahead and went silent.

"Was the gun (the .45) used to shoot anyone today?" Briley asks.

Routh stares at the table in silence then answers, "The revolver? No."

Briley: "Was the other guy named Chad?"

Routh: "Yeah."

Briley: "Where did you shoot him?"

Routh: "Is there any way I can see my parents yet? I'd like to see them and at least hug my mom one last time, you know?"

Briley: "You want to do that because you know what you did was wrong today, right?"

Routh: "Yep."

Briley asked Routh if there was anything he would like to say to the families and he said, "Yeah, I'm just sorry for what I've done and that we can work this out."

Briley leaves the interrogation room.

Routh asks multiple times if someone off screen can loosen or take of his handcuffs. He gets up and walks around the room and switches chairs.

The interview lasted approximately 35 minutes. The tape is still being played. Routh is alone in the room.

"I want to go to jail for this," Routh said to someone off screen.

Briley has returned and told Routh that his family will see him tomorrow and that he has some things he wants to clarify.

"What did they do after you shot them?" Briley asked. Routh replied, "They laid there and they weren't breathing anymore."

Routh tells Briley that the clothes he is wearing at that time are the clothes he was wearing at the gun range.

Briley asks what Routh's weed was laced with; "Was it formaldehyde?" Routh says it could have been.

"You know the difference between right and wrong, right?" Briley asks.

"Yes, sir," Routh said.

Briley leaves the room briefly and reenters.

"What are you going to tell your mom?" Briley asks.

"That I love her?"

"Do you wish this would have never happened? Seem like you want to cry about it," Briley said.

"I do a little," Routh said.

"You notice any blood on your boots?" Briley asks.

Routh bends over and looks down, "A little bit."

Briley tells Routh to have a seat and he'll have someone come over and get him.

Routh is heard asking to "smoke a cig or something" on the courtroom feed as the tape continues.

Routh is heard saying "I'd say fuck y'all. Y'all can eat my shit and die. Eat shit and die. When pigs fly, you'll eat shit and die," to someone off screen in the video.

Routh leaves the room with an officer.

Prosecutor asks if Briley is familiar with formaldehyde being used as an additive to week. Briley says he has come across it.

Routh's blood was not taken at the time of being questioned. It was discussed, but was decided against.

Witness has been passed to Tim Moore of the defense.

"I'd like to establish a timeline. Wouldn't that be beneficial to the jury, you think?" Moore said.

Routh's uncle arrives at Routh's home at approximately 9 a.m.

Kyle called Routh multiple times that day with the last being at approximately 12:30 p.m.

Kyle, Littlefield, and Routh left Routh's home at approximately 1:07 p.m. 

Approximately 30 minutes before Kyle arrived there was a bowl or two of marijuana smoked.

The text from Kyle to Littlefield about Routh being "straight-up nuts" happened at approximately 2:30 p.m.

At 3:15 Frank Alvarez checks the group into the lodge and they proceed to the shooting range.

Rough Creek Lodge employees find the bodies around 5:00 p.m.

Around that same time is when Routh goes to his uncle's home in Alvarado.

5:30-5:50 p.m. is approximately when Routh goes to his sister's home and she calls 911.

At 6:50 p.m. Routh is at the Taco Bell drive-thru in Red Oak.

At 7:53 p.m. Routh is in front of his home in Kyle's truck with Lancaster police surrounding him.

Routh is arrested at approximately 8:30 p.m.

According to Briley, the interrogation started at 11:25 p.m. He received Routh's sister and her husband's sworn statements at the Lancaster Police Department that evening.

Briley did not hear Routh's sister's 911 call and did not hear anything about his being psychotic or having to "take their souls."

Moore is asking Briley if he had different specific information or quotes by Routh that have been previously reported such as, "I've been trying to have faith all day and right now I just don't know what is right or wrong in the world."

After reading several individual quotes from Routh, Moore asks if Briley had any of that information. He said he had not.

Moore asks Briley if he had the information that Routh had been released from the VA hospital eight days prior to the incident. Briley says he did not.

Moore asks Briley if he felt Routh knowingly and intelligibly waived his Miranda rights. He says he felt he did.

Moore continues to ask if he felt Routh knowingly and was in the right frame of mind waived his rights.

When Briley asked Routh if he understood his rights in the questioning, Routh responded with a long response that did not make sense. Briley said he felt it seemed nonsensical.

Briley says that at the initial stages of the interview he is just going along with whatever themes he was going to talk about.

Moore continues to read through Routh's comments made while being questioned.

Briley says he feels that the answers Routh was giving were avoiding the questions, not as much as being insane.

Briley says he felt that Routh was beginning to set himself up for a self-defense and begins using blocking techniques when asked about drugs.

Briley disagrees with Moore on what Routh thought was "right" when he fled the scene. Moore says Routh thought he was in the right by fleeing. Briley feels that Routh knew the right thing was to not kill the two and he fled because he knew what he did was wrong.

As Moore asks questions, Routh continues to take notes.

Briley is asked if he knew Chris Kyle before the incident and answers, "Just knew of him, didn't know him personally."

Briley says that Routh is talking in "what we have learned as to be Eddie being Eddie." [Briley is not qualified to make this assessment because he does not personally know Eddie: he is a law enforcement employee testifying to help the prosecution win the case; he is not a close friend or family member.]
Routh's drug use is being discussed and Briley says, "His (Routh) comments speak for themselves."

Briley did not smell any alcohol on Routh during the interview.

Briley says that he feels that Routh was under the influence of marijuana and Moore has asked him to point it out to him. "What he says is that it's possible that what he used was laced with something and that it could have been formaldehyde,"

Moore is now asking why the blood test would have been a negative result, referring to the blood test that was not taken. "That's a question for the chemist."

Moore is now asking abut his previous statement about Routh possibly setting up a self-defense situation.

Counsels have approached the judge's bench on the request of Alan Nash. After they finish, Moore resumes the self-defense questions.

"A reasonable person, when justified, can use deadly force," Briley said.

"Does that include shooting an unarmed person in the back?" Nash asks.

Briley says that Routh accurately describes the murder weapon.

Routh had stated he shot them "a couple, few" times and he was "right up close to them."

Briley says that Routh visibly shook his head 'no' when asked if the two knew he was going to shoot them.

"He is not insane in my opinion at this point," Briley said.

Moore objects, the judge sustains, and the request for a mistrial is denied.

It is Briley's opinion that Littlefield was down on the ground when shot in the top of the head and was no danger to anyone.

Moore and Nash are going back and forth reading different responses that Routh gave during the interrogation.

Based on Briley's experience, Routh's response of "Have my parents made it in yet?" to the question of where he shot Littlefield meant that he knew where he shot Littlefield and remembered.

Briley also felt that because of Routh's recollection of the time frame being "pretty close" also shows that Routh was not insane.

Routh never asked to stop the interview and never asked for a lawyer. Briley also says that Routh nodded his head after being asked if he understood his rights.

Briley has read jail mail and listened to phone calls Routh has sent or received since Routh has been in jail. He says that Routh says things similar to what he did during the interview when talking with his family and on medications.

Those type of off the wall comments are what Briley has come to know as "Eddie, Eddie, Eddie."

Briley never found that Routh was ever in imminent danger even after interviews and investigations of the crime scene.

The witness is passed to the defense.

It was District Attorney Nash and Briley who decided not to take a sample of Routh's blood that night at the Lancaster Police Department.

Briley has been passed back to the prosecution.

Briley says that someone can claim self defense, but that does not mean they will be granted it, and it must be clear cut.
The State called Amber Moss to the stand, a forensic scientist for Texas Department of Public Safety. She was given evidence from the case. There was a stain on the toe of the right boot that Eddie was wearing. The blood stain on the boot was consistent with victim Chad Littlefield. The lab the witness works in received clothing items from the defendant, but the clothing did not contain evidence. Clothes from Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield were also sent to be analyzed. The stains on Kyle's clothing were consistent with Kyle and same with Littlefield. Stains were found and analyzed on some of the fire arms present at the scene. A stain was found on one of the handguns, and the DNA stain was consistent with Chris Kyle. Another handgun had a DNA stain consistent with Chad Littlefield. Eddie Ray Routh's DNA was not found on the steering wheel from Chris Kyle's truck. However, Routh's DNA was found on the gear shift and drivers side door handle.

In closing arguments, Erath County District Attorney Alan Nash described Routh as "a troubled young man," but said mental illnesses "don't deprive people from being good citizens, to know right from wrong." This the absurd. Routh may have known right from wrong, but someone who is mentally ill may not know what is real and what is not.
"You, Mr. Nash, are in a position of the "Public Trust" and are REQUIRED to be able to KNOW the differences of Mental Health States...otherwise...you are merely wasting taxpayer dollars to serve your own ego in a high profile case!!! If this guy was in the middle of a psychotic break — trust me — he thought nothing of what he was doing, other than survival. You best do some research on Mental Health issues — because this guy belongs in a mental health institution...he should be there now!!!"

Routh's addictions are a coping method for the isolation from society he felt. He was self medicating with cannabis, which the latest studies show, aggravates and intensifies the symptoms of schizophrenia (cannabis is not, I repeat, not a cause of schizophrenia). The proper supervised use of cannabis helps some deal with symptoms of PTSD, but would not be recommended to a schizophrenic.. The mental health programs in the U.S. are underfunded and under staffed. The VA is the same. During his service, Routh had the men and women of the Marine Corps to bond with, and did not feel isolated from society. I can imagine back in the "world," he felt more isolation from society, for he lost his support system of the Corps, and the people around him at home did not share his experiences overseas and are "unworthy" in Routh's mind to offer him support. Then at a shooting range talking to two-well adjusted men who are not isolated from society, because they had a great support system, some stressor brought out the impulse to kill in Routh. Anyway, I believe this tragedy was caused by uneducated , but with good intentions, amateur mental health volunteers mentoring a self-medicating schizophrenic with a gun. The misdiagnosis of PSTD by all involved caused a "perfect storm" of tragedy.
Mentally ill individuals being treated with anti-psychotic drugs have been used in many suspected “false flag” operations. The CIA's Project MK Ultra, which takes ordinary people and turns them into assassins, is still in progress today, despite the government's denial.

5 Most Shocking CIA Experiments of Project MKULTRA


Former FBI Director Ted Gunderson - MKULTRA Mind Control Revealed: The True Story




Chris Kyle was murdered so he wouldn’t be stripped bare on the witness stand during the Jesse Ventura case.

Chris Kyle had a habit of telling tall tales, especially when drinking. He became a liability for the Military Industrial Complex and the oil barrons. They needed a hero's ending to their propaganda movie based on Kyle's book, "American Sniper." They did not want Kyle to be cross-examined under oath in the Jesse Ventura defamation case that was about to go to court because they knew he would be exposed as a liar. Ventura filed the lawsuit on February 23, 2012, and videotaped depositions were given to defense attorneys on November 12, 2012. Kyle tripped up on details and had "memory lapses" in the deposition. 
In the deposition, while calmly stating that the fight had indeed occurred and that he had punched Ventura in the face, Kyle also conceded that Ventura may not have used a vulgarity in describing former President George W. Bush, which Kyle wrote in the book was one of the reasons he struck him. Kyle acknowledged he had no direct knowledge of some of details in his story. For example, in his book, he wrote “rumor has it” he gave Ventura a black eye. According to the documents, Kyle told ghostwriter DeFelice that he punched Ventura in the eye, Ventura fell and hit his head, and Ventura appeared on television several days later with a black eye. Kyle said he could not remember who told him that Ventura had hit his head when he fell to the sidewalk, could not recall how he learned that Ventura had a black eye, and conceded that tables did not go “flying” during the 2006 confrontation in a bar near San Diego, which he described in his book “American Sniper.”

Ventura's attorneys pointed out elements in the drafts of the book and in tapes and transcripts of phone conversations between Kyle and ghostwriter DeFelice which indicated Kyle had given different versions of what happened on the night of October 12, 2006. Ventura testified that he hasn’t drank alcohol since he began taking a blood thinner in 2002 that causes him to bruise and bleed easily. Pictures of Ventura taken in the days after the supposed fight show no visible injuries. At the time, Ventura was sporting a long, black beard which he wore in a braid. When his attorney asked if there was anyone else at the bar who looked like Ventura, he replied: “Not to my recollection. I think I had the market cornered on that,” prompting some laughter in the courtroom. In addition, Ventura testified, no one at the SEAL events in the following few days ever mentioned a confrontation.


Chris Kyle attended the SHOT gun show in Las Vegas, which was held January 15 - 18, 2013, where he gave one of his last interviews. During the interview (video below), he advocated for the right to bear arms.

Two weeks later, on February 2, 2013, Chris Kyle and his friend Chad Littlefield were shot multiple times with two guns: Kyle with one gun and Littlefield with another. They were found at a shooting platform at the exclusive resort that housed the range, surrounded by a variety of weapons. "The only weapons on the scene that were loaded were two 1911-style handguns," Texas Ranger Michael Adcock told the court in rural Erath County. The guns were on Kyle and Littlefield, with their safeties on. The guns were semi-automatic and popular with gun enthusiasts, Adcock said. [Reuters, February 12, 2015]

Suddenly it all makes sense. "American Sniper" is a false flag, itself. Kyle is just a made-up propaganda tool. Kyle sat on a roof with a BMG or Lapua rifle under an umbrella drinking tea and shooting low risk targets.

Was Kyle being groomed or did they want him to be the martyr and cultural folk hero to cleanse America of its conscience? Is Kyle’s killing really about an overmedicated homicidal PTSD vet or was this something else? He liked to talk so maybe it was time to get rid of Kyle before he buried himself in lies, especially since he was about to be called to testify under oath at the Ventura defamation trial.

Chris Kyle in Fallujah, Iraq from a Top Floor Apartment on a Baby's Crib Turned Sideways


Chris Kyle on gun violence, gun control, veteran life at SHOT Show 2013

At the beginning of Routh's taped confession while in custody on the day of the murders, February 2, 2013, Routh can be heard muttering about his soul and pigs and talking to several “Chrises.” At one point, he said talking to Kyle was like “talking to the wolf.” He also says: "I can smell bullshit."

Routh described meeting Littlefield and Kyle for the first time the day of the shootings. “I imagine they’re headhunters, trying to hunt everybody down.”

“I’ve got tons of people eating on my soul right now,” Routh said in the interview.

Routh said he shot Littelfield first, because Littlefied was the one he could identify.

“If I did not take down his soul, he was going to take down mine,” Routh said during the videotaped confession. “Their training wasn’t as good. My training’s better.”

Routh's May 31, 2013 phone interview with a journalist from The New Yorker was played for the jury at Routh's murder trial. It was recorded four months after the murders (prisoner phone calls are recorded by the jail). Routh said he shot Littlefield first, then Kyle, then "finished off" Littlefield because he was on his back, twitching. Routh himself was the one who called The New Yorker to offer a story.

During testimony before the jury on February 16, 2015, prosecutors played four voicemails that Routh left on Kyle’s phone between January 26, 2013, and Febuary 2, 2013, the day Routh fatally shot Kyle and Littlefield. Most of the messages were short, and Routh asked Kyle to call him back. In a 20-second voicemail on January 29, 2013, Routh left an at-times inaudible message.
Routh to Kyle in 1st voicemail: “Just giving you a call Chris and seeing how you’re doing today.” Asked Kyle to call him back.

Routh to Kyle in 2nd voicemail: “Hey brother, give me a shout man. Talk to you later, bye.”

Routh in 3rd: “Hey man. I’m just giving you a shout. …Kind of a sad day when it rains. It’s good, but it’s sad. Rains will come and rains will leave. I guess that’s what they do.”

Routh to Kyle in 4th voicemail: “Hi, uh, this is Eddie if you can give me a call back.” 
Kyle and Routh had several phone conversations ranging from two minutes to about 15 minutes in the days leading up to the shooting, testified Jeff Shaffer, a former Secret Service agent who analyzed phone records.

Phone records also revealed that Routh’s girlfriend called Kyle’s phone twice on the day of the slayings [she had gotten his number from the piece of paper on Routh's refrigerator]. They had also exchanged text messages earlier in the day, all which agitated Routh and, no doubt, made him even more suspicious and paranoid.

Two years later, while under psychiatric care and anti-psychotic drugs in county jail, two psychiatrists, who have teaching credentials but no practical experience counseling patients, were hired by the prosecution in December 2014 and January 2015 to interview Routh. He told them he shot Chad first then Chris, and he said that he shot both with a 9mm handgun. However, the state says he shot Chris six times with a .45-caliber pistol and Chad seven times with a 9mm Sig Sauer handgun, both of which belonged to Chris. The pyschiatrist told Routh that the autopsies said a .45 and 9mm were used, but Routh said they were wrong, that he had only used one gun, the 9mm.

The prosecutor's expert witnesses testified at his trial on February 20, 2015 to the following:
Routh told Price that he was surprised that Kyle was taking him to a gun range and that he brought Littlefield along. Routh was agitated about the number of guns in truck. Routh didn’t know they were going to shooting range.

Routh also said he was offended that Kyle didn't shake his hand. "They just weren't treating him right," Price says.

Kyle was speeding by 20 mph. Routh felt it was dangerous. He said they wouldn’t talk to him.

They stopped to eat: Routh wasn’t hungry but Kyle bought him food anyways.

Routh's girlfriend called Kyle to check that he was with him. Kyle texted her that he was. Routh got mad at their exchange and thought he was on a one-way trip to lodge, that they were taking him there to kill him.

Routh consistently says he didn't like that Littlefield wasn't shooting at the range. "I better shoot Chad before he shoots me."

"When I shot them, I thought, 'Jesus Christ, what have I done?'"

Routh says he shot Littlefield first then Kyle, both with a 9mm handgun.

Littlefield was convulsing so he walked over and shot him in the head. Then he got into truck and fled scene. He went to uncle's and then to his sister’s. He got mad about how they treated him so he went home to his parents' house get his dog.

Routh told Price: "I didn't plan it methodically, but in some kind of tactical scheme, I shot the target facing me first, that was Chad," Routh says. Routh went on to say that he shot the target facing away from him second, which was Kyle. Investigators thought Kyle was shot first and that Routh shot Littlefield in the back and that Littlefield wasn't facing him. Routh says otherwise.
Autopsies found that Littlefield and Kyle were shot with different guns, .a 45 and a 9mm. When Price told Routh this information. Routh said the investigators were wrong, that they made a mistake. Routh insists that he shot with one gun, the 9mm, which was in his possession when he was detained by police on the day of the murders. Investigators say that Kyle was shot with a 45 handgun, six times, and Littlefield was shot with the 9mm handgun, seven times. Routh insists he used only one gun, the 9mm, to shoot both Kyle and Littlefield. He shot Kyle as he turned toward him to prevent Kyle from shooting him. This is the story he told to four different psychiatrists over the past two years.

The prosecutor's expert witnesses testified at his trial on February 20, 2015 to the following:
Price said Routh waited for Kyle to empty his weapon before Routh shot him.

Price said Routh told him he chose the time to kill them; that he knew Kyle had emptied his gun. Price testified that Routh had just loaded, and he was bragging he was a sharp shooter with a pistol. 

Price said Routh never opened up about how many times he shot Kyle and Littlefield. Routh was “immediately remorseful” when describing the killings.

Routh told Price that he first thought of shooting Kyle and Littlefield on the way to gun range, but didn't want to get into a car crash.

Price said Routh knew what he did was wrong; that he was gonna kill them in truck but didn’t want to get hurt in wreck.
A day earlier, on February 19, 2015, the judge agreed with the prosecution that the testimony of the defense's expert witness, with similar credentials to the two expert witness who were permitted to testify for the prosecution, was not admissible. The following is some of the testimony of the defense's expert witness and the exchange with prosecutors, which was not given before the jury.
Defense attorneys have called Charles Overstreet, a professor of psychology at Tarrant County College. He was in Army medical service.

Overstreet was a major in the U.S. Army, deployed to Iraq several times as head of combat stress control unit. He was a mental health provider there.

Overstreet visited Eddie Ray Routh in jail twice to assess his mental state. Also went through Routh's VA medical records.

Overstreet says Routh was regularly diagnosed with psychiatric disorders and that he was on anti-psychotics, anti-depressants, mood stabilizers and anti-hallucinogens.

Overstreet says Routh displays symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia and PTSD. Paranoid schizophrenia: typical first onset is at age 25, Routh's age at the time of the murders.

Overstreet on Routh: "He was suffering from a mental disorder... and he did not know the consequence of his actions at the time."

Overstreet says PTSD is not a diagnosis you would use in an insanity defense.

Overstreet says that he believes Routh didn't understand at the time of the slayings that what he did was wrong/illegal.

Dr. Overstreet says Routh is paranoid schizophrenic and has PTSD. Dr. Overstreet says that Routh didn't know his actions wrong.

Defense asked judge to not allow the state to use the word wrong. Judge denied that request.

During cross examination, prosecutor Alan Nash asked Overstreet about his experience, and noted that Dr. Overstreet is not a licensed physician. He has master's degree in psychology.

Nash questioned Overstreet about what Routh perceived as threatening behavior from Kyle and Littlefield.

The cross examination became heated, but the jury was not present.

Dr. Overstreet: PTSD can result from being in hostile environment and being exposed to gunfire.

Dr. Overstreet: Routh was suffering from paranoid delusions in the truck during the drive to gun range and at the range.

Dr. Overstreet explained that Routh's delusions made him think Littlefield would shoot him.

Dr. Overstreet: Once he killed the "threat," Littlefield, he killed Kyle because he was threat.

Dr. Overstreet has never been appointed by the court to argue insanity.

Council argued for an hour and a half about the admissibility of testimony.

The jury was not present for any of this.

Overstreet said: "There doesn't have to be an overt threat... because it's the state of the mind of the defendant that is the problem."

Nash asked Overstreet how Routh described shooting Kyle and Littlefield.

Overstreet says Routh first believed Kyle and Littlefield planned to kill him when they were riding in the truck to the gun range.

After hearing with judge, judge agreed with the prosecution and ruled that Overstreet will NOT be testifying in front of the jury on his assessment of Routh. Overstreet's testimony was not admissible, and another doctor was called to testify for the defense.


Related:
Word of the covert program began leaking culminating in a number of investigations in the mid-1970s including the important Church Committee, chaired by Senator Frank Church. Additional hearings were conducted by other Senate committees.

The program focused on developing covert offensive and defensive techniques to use in the cold war, including developing biological and chemical materials and methods.  The transcript of a Joint Senate Hearing investing the program described the experiments as follows:
  • Substances which will promote illogical thinking and impulsiveness to the point where the recipient would be discredited in public.
  • Substances which increase the efficiency of mentation and perception.
  • Materials which will cause the victim to age faster/slower in maturity.
  • Materials which will promote the intoxicating effect of alcohol.
  • Materials which will produce the signs and symptoms of recognized diseases in a reversible way so that they may be used for malingering, etc.
  • Materials which will cause temporary/permanent brain damage and loss of memory.
  • Substances which will enhance the ability of individuals to withstand privation, torture and coercion during interrogation and so-called "brain-washing".
  • Materials and physical methods which will produce amnesia for events preceding and during their use.
  • Physical methods of producing shock and confusion over extended periods of time and capable of surreptitious use.
  • Substances which produce physical disablement such as paralysis of the legs, acute anemia, etc.
  • Substances which will produce a chemical that can cause blisters.
  • Substances which alter personality structure in such a way that the tendency of the recipient to become dependent upon another person is enhanced.
  • A material which will cause mental confusion of such a type that the individual under its influence will find it difficult to maintain a fabrication under questioning.
  • Substances which will lower the ambition and general working efficiency of men when administered in undetectable amounts.
  • Substances which promote weakness or distortion of the eyesight or hearing faculties, preferably without permanent effects.
  • A knockout pill which can surreptitiously be administered in drinks, food, cigarettes, as an aerosol, etc., which will be safe to use, provide a maximum of amnesia, and be suitable for use by agent types on an ad hoc basis.
  • A material which can be surreptitiously administered by the above routes and which in very small amounts will make it impossible for a person to perform physical activity.

7 comments:

  1. DeeeezzzzNutz
    » Mon Feb 9 2015 14:44:10
    This nonsense of Chris Kyle being killed by some guy with PTSD is bogus... I mean, it's clearly a cover-up. The higher ups wanted him dead and that's what happened. Even his wife believes that the PTSD story is BS....Not to mention, he was on a talkshow spilling beans a couple days before his murder. It's pretty obvious.......

    lcplthomasc
    » 1 day ago (Mon Feb 16 2015 16:30:52)
    Myself and a few other Marines agree. I don't think Routh just up and had a "moment" and killed them guys. Someone/something is covering something up. Even going with schizophrenia, stuff just doesn't add up. I personally think someone who knew Routh's mental state took advantage of that and manipulated him. Either it was an opportunity (which i think), or Routh was being groomed for this for some time.

    Anon456
    2/13/2015 8:46 PM EST
    “Texas Ranger Michael Adcock shows a revolver cylinder to the jury as he testifies during the murder trial of Eddie Ray Routh, who is accused of killing former Navy SEAL Chris Kyle and his friend Chad Littlefield at a shooting range near Glen Rose, Texas. “ Wondered why there would even be evidence of a revolver cylinder at the Chris Kyle Littlefield trial of the hitmen’s patsy Routh because all the weapons carried by Kyle and Littlefield were automatics and did not have cylinders. But bet the hit men used pistols with cylinders and my guess there were no casing found at the scene. This fact in itself would prove to all police… that investigated and follow Kyle’s murder hitmen killed the victims, and not Routh. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2... So this trial is really about proving to Texans, hitmen killed Kyle and Littlefield, and not Routh. You can go to the bank knowing everyone in Texas will dedicate their lives to proving Kyle Littlefield murders were hits sanctioned by some secretive outfit. Just like Aurora, Sandy Hook and Boston Bombs. Hope Routh is convicted and spends every day of his life in prison. If Routh gets killed, its because the real hitmen fear what Routh says about them. Kyle and Littlefield were found with 45 caliber 1911 style semi-auto pistols on their bodies, neither man had drawn their weapons from their waistbands. Erath County District Attorney Alan Nash said Wednesday that all six rounds were fired from a powerful .45-caliber (cylinder) pistol. Hum. If both Kyle and Littlefield had their auto pistols on them unfired in their holsters, then where are the 45 caliber (cylinder) guns that killed them? They are with the hit men that set them up and killed them. Texans will know this was a hit, even though WaPo may never have a clue.

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  2. SusanMarie2
    2/13/2015 9:10 PM EST
    I believe they said in another article that they were both shot with different guns which only adds to the mystery here. Why did they both lay down a gun within reach of Routh and then turn their back? At this point, I don't believe they have told us and almost anything seems plausible.

    Anon456
    2/13/2015 9:37 PM EST
    Routh shot them in the head with what guns? Kyle and Littlefield’s weapons were on them, unfired. My guess is it was two 6 shot Colt 45s, completely different bullets than 45 auto, and there would have been 12 shots, not 13. Two hit men and probably a few spotters, maybe even a helicopter or two. But maybe not, Kyle would be difficult to fool. What I hope is going on, trials, retrials, this that and the other is proving beyond a shadow of a doubt Kyle/Littlefields’ murders were well planned hits by people who knew what they were doing, like military Ops. If so, it would go a long way toward proving Aurora, Sandy Hook and the many other shootens were the same type of Ops, representative of today’s corruption in the USA.

    SusanMarie2
    2/13/2015 8:14 PM EST
    Although we have found out a surprising detail that we had not yet heard before the beginning of this trial--that Kyle and Littlefield were texting each other about Routh while Routh sat in the back seat feeling eerily ignored or even taunted--there is still a missing piece to this puzzle. WHO gave him the guns once at the shooting range and WHY did they have their backs to Routh at the time of the shooting? Also, have other vets that they had worked with in the past reported feeling anything similar? They are not therapists and obviously they were in way over their heads. I can see this same thing happening with another vet under the same circumstances. Not to blame the victims but they offered to help and then made things worse by the way they treated him. That has to be taken into consideration...the fact that they were supposed to be helping a person who was ill, not antagonizing him further.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/02/13/american-sniper-trial-i-shot-them-because-they-wouldnt-talk-to-me/

    MrWhite_69
    » 15 hours ago (Tue Feb 17 2015 03:06:25)
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    Tue Feb 17 2015 03:11:46
    The military base only a few yards from the pentagon retrieved EVERY surveillance camera around the pentagon when it was "attacked". Chris Kyle was "murdered" at a US Presidential resort , every videotape was taken before the staff knew there was a shooting of over 10 shots. The videos of Kyles shooting will not be released just like the PENTAGON "which is on a military base" attack .. Kinda sad that the public doesn't want to see these videos. BUT... The ONE video of the plane crashing into the pentagon was finally released"and obviously edited...Please watch it.. I find it hilarious. I find it sad that this was the only usable footage of the hundreds of cameras pointed at the Pentagon.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzFqXbfv_yg

    It;s a fact that every employee of the Pentagon are not allowed to talk about 9/11 for security reasons. But it didn't stop a few employees from calling their relatives when it happened. The employees thought a missile hit the building. A fully armed military base was only across the street of the Pentagon since it was built.

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  3. Re: this board ignores littlefield.
    lcplthomasc
    » 2 days ago (Sun Feb 15 2015 18:22:46)
    IMDb member since July 2008
    Just about everyone ignores Littlefield. Unfortunate...but for what it's worth, I do believe he was just collateral damage...

    Re: American Sniper trial. I shot them because they wouldnt talk to me.
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    lcplthomasc
    » 2 days ago (Sun Feb 15 2015 18:20:14)
    IMDb member since July 2008
    I think there's a WAY bigger picture either government or someone/something else knows a lot about that the public will never know. Even the schizo-est of the schizophrenic Marines around wouldn't kill a sailor in the back like that and not have more to say than what Routh does, it just doesn't add up...

    Re: American Sniper trial. I shot them because they wouldnt talk to me.
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    MrWhite_69
    » 3 days ago (Fri Feb 13 2015 19:17:06)
    IMDb member since August 2010
    Kyle and his friend were sitting there making fun of Routh texting back and forth like a couple schoolgirls. heres the article http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/11/us/american-sniper-chris-kyle-trial/ I can imagine that they made it clear that they were teasing him.

    simpsonsnoop
    » 3 days ago (Fri Feb 13 2015 23:21:20)
    IMDb member since February 2008

    I can imagine that they made it clear that they were teasing him.

    Maybe even plotting to kill him. Fortunately Eddie turned the tables on them and shot first.

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  4. Jeffrey A. Trueman reply to Wash Post article
    2/15/2015 9:46 PM EST
    I'm very surprised Chris and his friend would have not taken more time to get to know the Marine and feel him out. Sick Veterans need proper transition, treatment and compensation for their service connected problems. Seems like the U.S. Govt. has a lot of explaining to do as to why this Veteran was not locked up in a mental facility. Clearly, he was suffering much worse than most who have it as the facts are showing and the trial should cover countless aspects of the DVA Scandal related matters. There can be genuine DVA reforms from this tragedy. I hope the families are bringing wrongful death suits against DVA if neglect, abandonment and malpractice occurred in the Marine's case both legal and medical for that matter under the SCOUS-Feres Doctrine "second-rationale".

    timoshenko
    2/14/2015 3:28 PM EST
    So I would infer that Mr Kyle really didn't care about helping Mr Routh, that he was just pretending to care for show, building his resume or image. Shows how dangerous that approach can be with the mentally ill, they pick up on it very quickly. In retrospect if he wanted to do some phony "helping", putt-putt golf might have been a safer choice than the firing range. But I suppose snipers don't think like that.

    The Government means to have our guns no matter how many and who they have to kill to get them. This guy was good and he had morals – he wouldn’t sell out so they got rid of him. May Chris rest in peace and may his family heal. I say this wasn’t a “accident”. Think MKUltra, mind control, triggering of a Manchurian candidate, whatever. Was Chris on Obama’s puppet master’s kill list?

    A contract killing - Routh has been selected to be the patsy. Routh volunatarily entered treatment the first time. It is a series of coincidences that led to his outing with Kyle. They both attended the same high school. Routh's mother worked at the school the Kyle's kids' attended. He spoke at that school. The first time he meets Routh he takes him to a remote, isolated gun range where Kyle had exclusive access. Routh was denied admittance into the VA hospital just days prior to the killings. He was subscribed meds by the same VA hospital. They under-prescribed his risperdone just days prior the the killings and it wouldn't be fixed until two week later. Taya, testified in court this week that she knew the woman because she worked at the elementary school where the Kyle children, then 8 and 6, attended.

    Lets assume- for argument sake- none of this ever happened- would that have been better PR for the film or worse? We all know Kyle liked to shoot his mouth off and couldn't keep himself out of the lime light- and the more he did the more it hurt his image. So a 9 mm was used to shoot Littlefield and .45 was used to shoot Kyle. The 9 mm was found in Roth's possession but the .45 still remains at large. So Routh had the good sense to ditch the .45 somewhere but not the 9 mm? The more logical explanation is that there were two shooters. And Routh being the one shooter is taking the fall for both shootings. "Prosecutors have not elaborated on how Routh initiated the attack or whether he opened fire on the two men at the same time. Kyle was killed with a .45-caliber pistol, while Littlefield was shot with a 9mm Sig Sauer handgun, a distinctive weapon that is popular with Navy SEALs and had the Navy anchor engraved on it." Both guns belonged to Kyle, and the Sig Sauer was found in Routh’s possession, reloaded, later that night, authorities said. A direct quote from the article. Nothing about a .45 being found in his possession.

    Kyle and Littlefield were texting each other about Routh while Routh sat in the back seat feeling eerily ignored or even taunted--there is still a missing piece to this puzzle. WHO gave him the guns once at the shooting range and WHY did they have their backs to Routh at the time of the shooting?

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  5. During the videotaped interrogation by police the night of February 2, 2013, Routh is still wearing the same clothes and boots he wore to the gun range. If he shot 13 rounds at close range, why did the officer interrogating him only mention that there was a smidgen of blood on his boots (it was later determined to be Littlefield's blood)? Wouldn't there be blood splattering on his clothes and boots? During the trial, there was no mention of the clothing, although it was collected as evidence after Routh's interrogation. Did they not test his hands for gun residue because he confessed? Prosecutors are saying his psychosis was induced by marijuana and alcohol but the police did not test Routh for either on the day he was arrested and booked.

    So somebody that the military knew was unstable, which would serve as a perfect cover for using him as an assassin. Just like Jared Loughner, who assassinated Judge John Roll shortly after Abercrombie said he was worried about states passing eligibility laws...When the government has all our medical records they will be able to very easily see who has a medical condition that could be used as cover for being used as an assassin. And they will also know the most effective way to assassinate any one of us under the cover of it being a genuine medical death (cancer, heart attack, suicide, etc) But for sure anybody who’s been in the military is already in their database and can be used for whatever purpose they want. Sick. And given the threats we know occurred in Oct of 2008 to silence the media from reporting on Obama’s ineligibility, it would be crazy for anybody to NOT consider what assassinations the regime may be doing right now. We know these people are murdererous thugs. People like Bill Ayers and Obama’s other Columbia University buddies were PLANNING on exterminating what they believed would be 25 million Americans who would resist “re-education” in the forced camps. We KNOW what kind of people these are. We would be morons to ignore that. - Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America, 2/3/2013, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2984764/posts?q=1&;page=201

    I wonder if the shooter remembers anything. *cough* Manchurian Candidate *cough*

    How many minutes will it be before we see someone from the gun control crowd offering it up as “proof” that “nobody is safe from gun violence”.

    * The media will report, if they report at all, the "tragic" death of a "decorated veteran" who was "needlessly slain" at an "EVIL SCARY GUN range".

    * "All the more reason to enact legislation before more gallant heroes are 'needlessly slain' by illegal guns"

    It is possible that his brain was giving him messages that the people he was with who would not talk with him were hostile. Sometimes we all get defensive after a traumatic event(s) and we don't filter the information coming in very well. In other words, he was a victim of environmental overload. Example: A car backfires and he hits the ground because his processing says it is a gun shot. So, because Kyle and Littlefield were not talking to him this meant to him they were hostiles. He hadn't "returned home" yet.

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  6. Routh was certifiably mentally ill. Goodness knows what all was wrong with him - but it was known before this happened that he was extremely psychotic. If ever someone wasn't responsible for his actions - this guy is it. Do you think that he had any concept of someone trying to help him at that time? You clearly don't understand mental illness. This guy was literally living in another universe when he did this. You can't treat him like a sane person who understands their actions.

    "This dude is straight up nuts."
    "Maybe he'll get better if we give him a gun."

    Routh, who had been in and out of mental hospitals for at least two years before their encounter and was diagnosed with schizophrenia and psychosis, among other ailments. His family says he also suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder from his time in the military.

    Kyle and Littlefield were texting each other about Routh while Routh sat in the back seat feeling eerily ignored or even taunted--there is still a missing piece to this puzzle. WHO gave him the guns once at the shooting range and WHY did they have their backs to Routh at the time of the shooting?

    I suspect that Routh knew and felt that Chris Kyle thought he was "straight up nuts", if what Routh's lawyer said about Chris Kyle is true. All I can say about this is if people are going to volunteer in helping people with PTSD and/or people with some form of mental illness, don't make fun of them. Be sincere and more importantly don't treat these people like they are straight up nuts. Such people still have the ability to feel.

    so the Sniper was helping a fellow vet deal with stress. The Sniper and a buddy take the guy out to the range. Then they ignore him on the ride over to the range.

    As many people have heard, when you are in a tight situation, the best thing to do with a crazy person is KEEP THEM TALKING. They always have something to say . . . and it keeps them from doing things like shooting you.

    He killed both in the back with two different weapons. In my mind all I can imagine is he

    Did all 13 shots come from just one or two guns? Did he pick up the weapons up off the range table and shot both at the same time with two hands?

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  7. Routh had a history of mental illness. He was readily identified as schizophrenic, delusional and "crazy" by those around him. According to our laws, he is not guilty of the crime of murder. Obviously he shouldn't be running around free. If you have a predisposition to schizophrenia, avoid marijuana and other psychotropic drugs. Especially at the age when you are must vulnerable (late teens, early 20s). Schizophrenia can be triggered, but presently, there is no way to cure it.

    "Routh had smoked marijuana and drunk whiskey before he met up with Kyle and Littlefield, prosecutors said." Deadly cocktail! Routh, having an extreme mood disorder and schizophrenic, perhaps, perhaps-not on other medication, smoked weed and drank. The potency of a powerful weed can create for some, extreme paranoia. Paranoid thoughts, combined with alcohol, feeling dissed, then add high power weapons? All of the above proved deadly. Very sad.

    PTSD is a mental illness, isn't it, brought on by a traumatic stress? In fact, it is not caused only by combat: it is caused by stress beyond what the organism could endure. From whatever source. Routh might have had additional problems. It was once called, "shellshock," the "thousand-yard stare," various other things to indicate that someone no longer was what he was before the trauma. It can come from many kinds of trauma, not only combat.

    PTSD is not caused just by combat. If he lacked resilience PTSD could have been caused by how he was treated in the Marines. If he had symptoms of mental illness it's likely the stress was too much for him or his team mates pushed him right over the edge. We see schizophrenia manifest when people are faced with stressful situates like starting college or joining the military. Regardless, the DSM V notes people can develop PTSD from events which you might see as nothing.

    I've read at some point in the last few months that his family's impression was that Routh's mental health deteriorated after he was deployed to Haiti. I've read accounts by other people who volunteered for the Haiti relief efforts who described seeing horrific things; some of them were troubled afterwards with intrusive thoughts and/or images (one symptom of PTSD).

    My opinion is Routh was in a state of Hallucination Chemical Brain Chemistry.

    I don't doubt the police not understanding his spoken thoughts or the his victims texting "This Guy is Really Nuts" Drugs or Alcohol can turn the brain into what criminologist call "The Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" syndrome

    threatened suicide and homicide--as Routh did during the months prior to this episode; diagnosed as psychotic and schizophrenic

    What is clear is that this guy IS innocent by reason of insanity because he was certifiably insane before this even happened.

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