Saturday, February 28, 2015

Iraq War Veteran Eddie Ray Routh Was Diagnosed with Psychosis and Schizophrenia



On February 2, 2013 Chris Kyle and his friend Chad Littlefield were fatally shot on a Texas gun range. Former marine Eddie Ray Routh, who had been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder, psychosis and severe mental illness, confessed to the murders. Routh had been a small arms technician who served in Iraq and was deployed to earthquake-ravaged Haiti before leaving the Marines in 2010.

Eddie Routh's mother, who worked as an aide at the Kyle kids' school, was the person who asked Kyle to take on her son in a program to help rehabilitate wounded and troubled veterans through exercise. The program, sponsored by Fitness Cares Foundation, was established in 2011; however, the company, Fitness Cares, or FITCO, "an elite fitness equipment industry," approached Kyle in 2012 to help promote the foundation by using his name to raise funds. In 2013, the foundation raised $263,067 in private donations: $112,603 (or 43% of funds raised) was used to purchase fitness equipment from the company, FITCO, to then give to veterans; and $96,583 (or 37% of funds raised) was spent on indirect costs/overhead (which included $26,485 for salaries, although none of the seven directors are paid, and a suspicious $11,406 for payroll taxes); leaving $53,881 (or 20% of funds raised) in donations to be invested ($10,014 of the fund balance was used to payoff expenses that exceeded revenue from the previous year).

Kyle agreed to work with Routh a week before the fateful trip to the gun range. Kyle and his neighbor and hunting buddy, Chad Littlefield — a facilities and logistics manager with a lab in DeSoto, Texas, who was not a veteran — decided to take Routh shooting on February 2, 2013. However, no one in Routh's inner circle, including Routh himself, knew that Kyle was planning to pick him up that day: Kyle made multiple calls to Routh's home phone that day, the last call being around noon, before he pulled up in Routh's driveway at 1:07 p.m.

For years the Routh family sought help through the Veterans Health Administration but found themselves adrift in a system struggling to meet the demands spurred by a decade of war and the aging veterans of past conflicts. In 2004, the V.A. Inspector General called the Dallas facility the worst in the nation; in 2012, a Dallas TV station interviewed veterans who alleged that the facility was so poor that it put “lives at risk.”

Routh had been in and out of a psychiatric hospital and the Veterans Affairs hospital in Dallas three times in the months leading up to the killings, and area police reports documented Routh’s mental problems.
Six months before a hunting guide found Kyle and Littlefield's bodies, police caught up with a shirtless, shoeless Routh walking the streets of his hometown. He was crying and smelled of alcohol, police said. His mother told police that Routh had just had an argument with his father who said he was going to sell Routh's gun. Routh left the house, threatening to "blow his brains out," she said. The former Marine was suffering from PTSD, though his family didn't understand what he was going through, according to a September 2, 2012, police report. He would be placed in protective custody and sent to Green Oaks Hospital in Dallas for mental evaluation.

On January 19, 2013, Routh and his girlfriend were hanging around her apartment when he fell into a state of paranoia. He began ranting to her and her roommate about government-surveillance activities. He once told a friend that the helicopters overhead were watching him. Outbursts of this nature had become more frequent. He made sure to cover the camera on his computer (“He felt very strongly about that,” his mother said), and confided to family and friends, “They know what we’re doing.” He also worried that he would be forced to return to Iraq. And yet, for all his distress, Routh sometimes contemplated going back into the service. “He had a lot of guilt that he wasn’t still in the Marines, overseas helping people,” his girlfriend said. Inside the apartment, Routh began pacing in front of  the door, clutching a knife. He said that he was prepared to defend her from government agents who were out to get them. For hours, she tried, unsuccessfully, to calm him. Finally, her roommate texted the police, who arrested Routh and took him to Green Oaks psychiatric hospital. He was transferred to the Dallas V.A. the next day.

After Routh arrived at the Dallas V.A., his mother and girlfriend visited him in the evenings. A week later, he did not seem much better. He was taking several medications, and his mother felt that he could hardly carry on a conversation. She urged the doctors to keep him hospitalized, at least until he was stable. Ignoring his mother's request, the V.A. discharged Routh the next day. When his mother drove to the V.A. to pick up her son, he was already out, wandering in the parking lot. She brought him home and told him about Chris Kyle. “I said, ‘This guy has a big reputation. He’s a really good man and he really wants to help you.’ And then he’s like, ‘Mom, that is so awesome’,” his mother recalled. “Eddie was happy. He could feel that somebody wanted to help him, somebody that understood better than me.”

Routh and His Girlfriend, Who Met on a Dating Website in March 2012


The next few days were difficult. Routh's girlfriend, who is Catholic, said he was fixated on “demons and devils.” He went with her to Mass on Sunday, hoping that it would help him. At home with his mother, Routh fluctuated between being angry and wound up, and being dazed and emotionless. “I could see him having flashbacks,” his mother recalled. “You know when you’re daydreaming? You just kind of get that glaze in your eyes? That was what was happening to Eddie. I knew what he was seeing was not good, ’cause he looked like a scared little child. He didn’t look like a man.” At night, he popped out of bed at the slightest sound, running into his mother’s bedroom to make sure that she was safe. “I thought someone was trying to get you,” he told her. His mother said that during the day “he still wasn’t able to carry on a good conversation. He wasn’t making good sense. He was crying a lot. He would come lay down in our bedroom. We’d bring in the dog and lay in the bed and he’d say, ‘Mom, will you hold my hand? I’m so scared. I don’t feel good. I’m not good.’ ” As she held him, Routh said, “I just wish you could be in my head for just a second, just so you could know what I’m feeling like.” “I wish I could,” she told him. “I would take it from you.”

On January 30, 2013, Routh's mother brought him back to the V.A., for a follow-up appointment. As a psychiatrist reviewed his chart, he noted that Routh had been prescribed only half the recommended dosage of risperidone — a powerful antipsychotic that has been widely used in V.A. hospitals to treat PTSD. The psychiatrist adjusted the prescription and ordered the medication to be sent to the Routh house in two days. Routh's mother was livid. When the psychiatrist questioned Routh, he looked to his mom. “He just wasn’t capable of speaking for himself,” she told the reporter. She explained to the psychiatrist that Routh wasn’t sleeping and “couldn’t think straight.” She pleaded with the psychiatrist to readmit him to the hospital, where “he’s not going to be a danger to others or to himself.” But the psychiatrist, according to Routh's mother, shook his head and said that hospitalization wasn’t necessary. Routh's mother then asked the psychiatrist if he could refer Routh to a residential program for people with PTSD, in Waco, Texas. The psychiatrist told her, “He’s not stable enough for that program.” He instructed Routh to come back in two weeks. His mother recalled, “I thought, Two weeks! That’s a long time. I told the doctor, ‘You know, he can’t even answer your questions! He can’t even carry on a conversation. I really think he needs to be in the hospital’.”
On February 2, 2013, Kyle, driving his custom, black Ford-350 truck, and Littlefield, who was in the passenger's seat, picked up Routh at his home and drove him two hours to a shooting range. Routh was looking forward to an excursion with Kyle: “He needed someone to validate what he was feeling, that it was O.K. for other people to go through it,” his girlfriend said. However, when Routh awoke on February 2, 2013, he, along with his girlfriend and his parents (who were out of town), did not know Kyle was coming by to pick him up. Kyle called Routh at him home multiple times that day, the last time at 12:30 p.m., before pulling into his driveway at 1:07 p.m.

While Routh sat in the backseat by himself with a small arsenal of guns and ammo, Kyle and his friend Littlefield, both of whom Routh had never met, sent text messages to each other about him, barely speaking to Routh. Kyle's text to Littlefield read, "This dude is straight up nuts." Littlefield texted back: "He's [sitting] right behind me, watch my 6," a military term for "watch my back." During the drive, Routh, who was under psychiatric care and taking anti-psychotic prescription medications (one being Risperidone, used to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, with side effects that include aggressive behavior, agitation and anxiety), became convinced that the two men intended to kill him.



When they arrived at the resort around 3 PM, they turned up a snaking, 3-mile road toward the lodge, where Kyle parked in front of the main lodge and went inside with Littlefield to register, leaving Routh alone in the backseat of the truck. Then then drove another few miles to the remote shooting range. Kyle was given "exclusive access to the range" as was the case whenever "he came out" to the resort. On the day of the fatal shootings, he said he was going to use the range for about 45 minutes, a resort employee testified.

Shortly after arriving at the the shooting range, Kyle and Littlefield were shot at close range multiple times. With one handgun, Kyle was shot six times, including one shot that struck several major arteries and damaged his lungs. One shot went through his cheek and struck his spinal cord. Several of the shots were considered “rapidly fatal.” With another handgun, Littlefield was shot seven times, including four that would have been instantly fatal. One bullet went through the top of his head, indicating it was likely fired while Littlefield was on his knees. Testimony from the person who conducted the autopsies proves that all the shots, except maybe one, went through his front side. One of those shots traveled through his mid-section, causing massive internal bleeding. The shot to the palm of his left hand exited the front of his hand and could have been one of the shots that hit his face, neck and chest. The shot that the coroner said entered through his back seemed more likely to have entered from the front upper chest, exiting through his lower back. For two years prosecutors claimed that Kyle was shot four times in the back and Littlefield was shot five times in the back, but this is false. They continued to propagate this lie before the jury during testimony in Eddie Ray Routh's murder trial in February 2015.

Barnard said the neither Kyle nor Littlefield had a chance of survival. Click here to read the testimony of Dr. Jeffery Barnard, who conducted the autopsies on Kyle and Littlefield, and Howard Ryan, a forensic operation specialist from New Jersey. Both testified for the prosecution.

The bodies were found by a hunting guide around 5 PM. Littlefield's body was found on a shooting platform, while Kyle's body was found a few yards away in the dirt in front of the elevated platform. "Chris was face-down with his nose in the dirt," said a former resort employee who discovered the bodies. "Chad was on the platform on his back." Both men were armed with .45-caliber 1911-style pistols when they were killed, but neither gun had been unholstered or fired, and the safeties were still on. Prosecutors have not elaborated on how Routh initiated the attack or whether he opened fire on the two men at the same time. Kyle was killed with a .45-caliber pistol, while Littlefield was shot with a 9mm Sig Sauer handgun. Both guns belonged to Kyle, and the Sig Sauer was found in Routh’s possession later that night. The only loaded weapons at the crime scene were the two 1911-style handguns that were in Kyle and Littlefield's waistband holsters, with their safeties on.

Shooting Platform at Crime Scene: Kyle and Littlefield's Bodies Cropped from Image


After leaving the scene in Kyle's truck, Routh stopped briefly at his uncle's house and then drove to the home of his sister and brother-in-law, 65 miles away from the gun range. He admitted to the killings and told his sister, "People were sucking his soul." He left their home in Kyle's truck and headed to his parents' small home in Lancaster, where he had been living. He’d gone home to get his dog and planned to drive to Oklahoma. His sister called 911, telling the operator he claimed to have killed two men. "He said that he killed two guys. They went out to a shooting range. Like, he's all crazy. He's f***ing psychotic. I'm sorry for my language." Routh's sister, who drove with her husband to the police station immediately after calling 911, told police that her brother "was out of his mind, saying people were sucking his soul and that he could smell the pigs." Routh's sister told The New Yorker that her brother said “he killed them” — Kyle and Littlefield — “before they could kill him; he said he couldn’t trust anyone anymore.”

Routh's Sister's Terrified 911 Call


In Routh's sister's 911 call (video above), she does not say that her brother told her that "I sold my soul for a truck," which was reported by the mainstream media. The person who said that is Randy Fowler, an investigator with the Erath County Sheriff’s Department in Texas. Fowler wrote in the affidavit: "Routh drove to his sister’s home in Midlothian, about 50 miles from the gun range where the shooting took place, shortly after the incident. Routh was driving what his sister, Laura Blevins, described as a 'big dark or black Ford F-250 pickup that she had never seen before.' It substantiated Routh’s claim that he had murdered Chris Kyle and his friend, and he told the Blevinses that he had killed Kyle and that he had 'traded his soul for a new truck'." Routh's sister told The New Yorker that her brother asked her if the world was freezing over, then announced that he had a new truck. She then asked if he had traded in his car, a Volkswagen Beetle; he said no, but added, “I sold my soul for a truck.” It is this statement that the defense is using as a motivation for the crime, rather than insanity due to Routh's severe mental illnesses. It is important to note that there was no other vehicle at the crime scene when Routh drove off in Kyle's truck, so it was the only vehicle he could take to flee the scene.

Officers were waiting for Routh that evening when he arrived at his parent's home. A police video displayed for the jury at Routh's trial, which began on February 11, 2015, showed police at Routh's home trying to coax him from Kyle's pickup. Officers in the video are seen trying to talk Routh into surrendering as he makes comments such as: "The [expletive deleted] anarchy has been killing the world," "I can feel everybody feeding on my soul," "Is this about hell walking on earth right now?," "Is voodoo all around us?," and "I didn't sleep a wink last night at all." He also expressed concerns about being stalked by cats and at one point announced, "I need to take a nap" and said he wanted his parents to come home (his parent were out of town). "There's no trust anymore," the video showed Routh saying.

Police Dashboard Camera Show Officers Arresting Eddie Ray Routh


One police officer, who happened to be a neighbor of Routh’s, was recorded by his body camera telling him: “I don’t want to hurt you, buddy. We all grew up together here.” Routh reportedly told the police officer: “It happened so fast. I don’t know if I’m going insane.” Kyle refused to leave the vehicle and eventually sped off with police in pursuit. He stopped six minutes later after a police vehicle rammed into the truck. Police video showed Routh opening the driver's-side door, emerging with his hands up, and sinking to the ground. He surrendered peacefully, police said. An officer is seen on the footage giving himself the sign of the cross.

Routh told police: "It wasn't a want to. It was a need to, to get out of that situation out there today or I was going to be the one out there to get my head shot off."

Weapons and Shooting Platform at Crime Scene


Weapons, Shooting Platform and Crime Scene Markers




Kyle's Custom, Black Ford-350 at Crime Lab


"When he took their lives, he was in the grip of a psychosis," Routh's court-appointed defense attorney said, "a psychosis so severe that he did not know what he was doing was wrong." The defense said Routh's psychosis kicked in during the two-hour drive to the gun range as he sat amid "an arsenal" of guns large enough to support "a small army." During the drive, Routh apparently became convinced that the two men intended to kill him. Their texting back and forth to each other about Routh as he watched from the back seat, no doubt, had something to do with it. "He thought he had to take their lives because he was in danger," Routh's attorney said. According to an affidavit, Routh told his brother-in-law he "couldn't trust them, so he killed them before they could kill him."

According to reports on the opening days of his trial, Routh had a "fitful" last night before the killings. He proposed to his girlfriend (who accepted the proposal) but also paced throughout the home, warning her not to speak out loud "because people were listening."

The prosecution is alleging that Routh drank whiskey that fateful morning and may have smoked "wet" marijuana (cannabis laced with formaldehyde) before getting into Kyle's truck. A Texas ranger found Routh's anti-psychotic prescription medications (one being Risperidone, used to treat schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, with side effects that include aggressive behavior, agitation and anxiety), a whiskey bottle on the table, a bong, and rolling papers when he searched Routh's home after the arrest. However, on cross examination, the ranger said he saw no evidence that Routh was intoxicated or under drug influence at time of his arrest.

Routh's uncle, James Watson, 45, testifying for the prosecution, said the two of them smoked non-laced marijuana between 30 minutes and an hour and a half before Routh left to go to the gun range, and said that they may have had whiskey that morning. Watson was at Routh's home because Routh's then-girlfriend was concerned for his well-being after the two had argued that morning. The previous evening, Routh had proposed to Jen. “We were in the kitchen,” she recalled. “I was getting him his medicine. I turned around, and he got to one knee and asked me to marry him.” Routh didn’t have a ring — he was broke — but pledged to save up for one. Jen accepted the proposal, and spent the night at Routh's home. They got into an argument the next morning, however, and she left around 10 AM.

Prosecutors, trying to support their contention that Routh's motivation for the crime was to steal Kyle's truck, also had Routh's uncle testify about the truck. After Routh left the crime scene, he first drove to his uncle's home, where he stopped briefly. Watson testified that Rough said: "Check out my truck. I'm driving a dead man’s truck." On the "dead man's truck" comment, Watson testified: "I thought he was talking about himself... he would often make bizarre comments like that."

On deferred adjudication for assault on a paramedic in Johnson County, Texas, Watson denies he made any deal with prosecutors. Watson testified that he grew up with Routh and that he learned about religion and morality from his family. “We’re God-fearing people," he said. When the prosecutor asked, "Does he have a sense of morality?," Watson replied: "Yes, he does." When the prosecutor asked, "Does he know right from wrong?," Watson replied, "Yes, he does."

Routh’s attorney is making the case that his client is not guilty by reason of insanity. In opening statements he said that Routh was suffering from severe mental illness at the time of the crime and could not tell right from wrong. Prosecutors have described Routh as a troubled drug user who used marijuana and whiskey the day of the killings, but say he knew right from wrong despite any history of mental illnesses.

Part of the grand jury indictment of Eddie Ray Routh, handed down on July 24, 2013, was the judge’s gag order, effective immediately:
"Due to the 'unusually emotional nature' of the case, its 'unique nature of security issues' and the 'extensive local and national media coverage' that it has already received, the judge directed all relevant law enforcement and judicial bodies, as well as Routh and his family, to refrain from any interaction with the media that might 'interfere with the defendant’s right to a fair trial'."
Despite the gag order, Routh’s lawyer was able to say his client will plead not guilty by reason of insanity and that he planned to present evidence Routh was suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder when he killed Kyle and Littlefield. The gag order applied only to the Routh family: the Kyle and Littlefield families were free to speak to the media. In an interview with The Los Angeles Times in January 2015, widow Taya Kyle said she believes the PTSD defense is a cop out.





Houston criminal defense attorney George Parnham said Routh — who has been imprisoned since the 2013 murders — is at a disadvantage because of the gag order issued on his family members and attorneys in 2013. At the time, the judge said he was issuing it because of the “unusually emotional nature of the issues involved in the case.” In light of the movie, Parnham said the gag order is now unfair. He explained: “It’s going to be very difficult for him to get a fair trial, not only because of the movie, but because of the media surrounding the movie. Mr. Kyle is a hero in many people’s eyes. Due to the fact that this movie has gained intense public attention, it’s doubtful that a fair jury can be selected anywhere.” Anticipating that finding an unbiased jury would be difficult, Kyle's court-appointed attorney filed a motion in 2013 to change the location of the trial, but it was denied.

Before the gag order, on February 27, 2013, it was reported that Jodi Routh, Eddie Ray Routh's mother, thanked the family of Chris Kyle for trying to help her son: "Jodi Routh hoped Chris Kyle could help her son 25-year-old, who was suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder. Eddie Routh is currently on medication and finally agreed to see his family. Today it was his mother Jodi and father Raymond who released an statement, expressing their sorrow their son caused to the Kyles and Littlefields, as well as thanking Kyle for trying to help her son." The family issued the following statement:
"Raymond and I want to express our deepest condolences to the Kyle and Littlefield families. We are incredibly heartbroken for your loss. We wish we could thank Chris Kyle for his genuine interest in helping our son overcome his battle with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. We want others with PTSD to know their struggle is recognized and we hope this tragedy will somehow help in getting greater care for and assistance to those in need. No words can truly express the sorrow we feel for the Kyles and Littlefields, their extended family and friends. Our thoughts and prayers continue to be with you all." – The Routh Family


Brian J. Klingenberg · Survey Technician at Premier Factory Safety"
"Routh is a friend of mine, deployed with him and was in the same units as he was. Something must have spooked him, it's very unlike his personality to be violent..."

Corey Smalley, Waynesburg, United States:
"I lived and slept next to Eddie while in Iraq when he was not on prison duty. Although Eddie was like my brother, what he did is wrong and he needs to pay for it. If the people writing this crap [lies about Eddie] want the truth, look me up on Facebook (Corey Smalley). I will be glad to help you understand."

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12 comments:

  1. Dave said:

    Routh was/is sick before joining the service. It's not actual PTSD since the family said he suffered issues before joining. He got worse after hurricane disaster relief in Haiti. That said, he wasn't stupid, he was paranoid.

    This is a likely scenario in opinion:

    If Kyle was texting his friend, both in the front seats of the truck, Routh very well might have thought they were plotting against him. Both victims were texting each other right in front of him. Routh no doubt noticed it and being highly paranoid was super sensitive to insults and perceived threats. I am not saying its the victims fault, but once Kyle knew the guy was "straight up nuts", and his buddy texted back "have my six", they suspected he may be a danger to them, yet continued on.

    At that point, it was time to say, "let's go fishing" or "I feel sick, let's do this another day", instead Kyle proceeds, parks, unloading guns and ammo. His wife said he sounded tense at the range when she phoned him, so perhaps heated words were said even after he knew this guy was not right in the head.

    Combine Kyle's tense feelings, the previous texting back and forth, a non friendly environment, and Mr. paranoid lunatic picked up on it, picked up a weapon close by, and ended what he perceived as threat or a hater. Short story: Diseased brain, handle with care, is the moral to this tragedy.

    I doubt Kyle was even thinking about helping Routh's illness by the time they got to the range. He sounded perturbed and wanted to get the promised outing over with. He probably thought it was well under control, both him and his friend had .45's on them, Kyle had faced Jihadist.

    I doubt Kyle thought anything other than disgust and that this nut's a waste of my time. Unfortunately, if you read about Routh he was sick but picked up on feelings very very well. Being Schizo enhanced that. If Kyle was tense and feeling put out, I have little doubt Routh picked up on it.

    Spec War said:

    Dave - I agree with you on the plausibility of your evaluation. I also agree on what you said about aborting the shooting plan, and, quite frankly, was even shocked that Chris decided to take a PTSD patient to a shooting range in the first place, what with his own experience with firearms, etc. I personally will not go shooting with anyone I don't trust implicitly [nor do anything else where I need to depend upon another person's skills in life threatening conditions/environments].

    I haven't had time to research the evidence yet, but I agree that texting negativity right next to the guy would've been a very serious security risk, as well as in very bad taste.

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  2. Dave said:

    Kyle was helpful, but he also had a temper and could turn emotionally on a dime, I think he went cold and short with Routh. If I was Routh, and had delusions of being hunted by the CIA or whatever like he did, and saw two armed men I don't know texting each other about me, they are taking me somewhere I don't know, maybe Routh notices Kyle give a quick nod to his friend, and the paranoia starts to build. He gets out, Kyle starts setting up targets, and Routh's sick brain starts making up a scenario that these guys are government agents or whatever, taking him there to kill him.

    Now that could be all wrong, it's speculation. However, the fact is Kyle and his friend were no doubt tense and probably not buddy-buddy with Routh upon parking. Routh may have thought them a real threat at that point. At the same time they perceived him to be a real nut. No doubt that is how his defense will play out.

    Poo said:

    @Dave....I think you nailed it! Those were my thoughts exactly....that he could tell they were texting each other. If they were both in the front seat, he may have even read it out of the corner of his eye. Even sane folks know when they are getting the "stink-eye".

    Demonic said:

    Immersion therapy and flooding are behavioral therapy techniques that are used by trained professionals to combat certain phobias. To use it you have to be certified, which neither Kyle or Littlefield had that certification. There are procedures that should have been followed before they just jumped in feet first (from what was reported, the day of the shooting is the first time the men had talked), and after a conversation with the shooter, Kyle heard enough to text Littlefield, "This dude is straight up nuts," to which Littlefield replied," I know, he's behind me, "Watch my six" (military lingo for "watch my back"). That brief exchange should have been a heads up not to give Routh a gun.

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  3. bocam48

    I don't know much about Routh other than what I've read. Yet it sounds as if he may have been troubled before going into the Marines. Research indicates that people predisposed to schizophrenia and other acute forms of psychosis may not have to be exposed to any danger, just stress or trauma. The character in "Full Metal Jacket" who kills his Marine DI is an example. For a quick summary see: http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/guide/mental-he...

    So diagnosing PTSD in anyone can be a challenge. PTSD diagnoses rely on accurate self reports of mental states, which can be challenging to obtain. Moreover, some people consider events traumatic that others ignore. A book titled "Pictures of the Mind" uses brain scans as evidence that some people process traumatic events very differently than others.

    Many professionals have also noted that some of the PTSD symptoms are present in other forms of mental illness. Diagnosing PTSD in children, especially young ones, is hugely challenging. While our veterans are currently receiving a lot of attention and sympathy for this disorder, as they should, think about the kids in our own country or war zones who've seen or experienced unspeakable horrors.

    There is some research on the use of chemicals to reduce or erase painful memories, but that is full of pitfalls. I hope some solution is found, but the real question is how to help people contend with tragedy, and there's no easy answer.

    Elaine Leddy

    Wanted to follow up on your post. Yes, in research most studies of those with PTSD supports that the worst sufferers were actually in desk jobs. This explained (some what) the phenomenon of why soldiers in Vietnam requested to be put back into action and were often times killed. Citing that not being in the battle was actually mentally worse. How much of that is related to nature/nurture is a debate for the ages. However, it is worth noting the significant amount of critical events that lead up to the death of these two young heroes. Reminds me of Andrea Yates, who held her husband accountable when he left here there and knew she was not well? Its not a matter of 'outting' our friends with issues but having honest and open conversations about mental health to prevent a tragic outcome like this.

    WillB2

    I keep reading that the idea for taking Routh to a gun range was to help him? Who's idea it was is never stated or what their medical credentials are. What doctors recommended taking him there and who's idea was it to give him a loaded gun and then turn around and face the other way? Just how many times did Chris Kyle take someone with mental problems to a gun range and give them a loaded gun anyway? The papers say he did it a lot. There is one line in the movie where Taya says to Chris Kyle "are you trying to kill yourself?"

    ComfortablyNumb

    Hope a mental health official documented Routh's condition, whatever it is, considering the amount of time he spent in hospitals. All this article talks about is his family declaring he was diagnosed as having PTSD. Who told them that, Routh?

    Waldo Slack

    PTSD suffers have higher levels of CB1 receptors in parts of the brain associated with FEAR & ANXIETY. PTSD is poorly managed by traditional Pharmacological intervention.

    A VET commits suicide every 65 minutes. That's 22 vets lost each day. Endo-cannabinoid imbalances in the brain can easily be solved by a natural substance found in nature, a herb. A medication which has been used since earliest of times. Cannabis is the solution. Shame they have to come home to this madness. Time to Reschedule. No medical value... lol.. FDA IDIOTS.

    Waldo Slack

    Dead man walking....

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  4. Helen J. Hunter · Dallas / Fort Worth, TX

    I said at the time of the killing that this man is not a monster. He is a soldier that probably saw and experienced more than his mind could handle. He is not alone. There are many, many of our military men and women who are crying out for help. The VA is a joke. It takes way too long for any type of treatment, but especially mental treatment. I know men and women who were in Viet Nam who had horrible flash backs and never received any help. It is true that PTSD is talked about more now but we have got to stop talking about it and help these soldiers. That is exactly what Kyle was trying to do and we need to continue bringing this issue to those who can help. It is our duty to help those who put their lives on the line for our freedom. Shame on our government for leaving our soldiers to fend for themselves when they come home.

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  5. “To try and even find an excuse is disgusting. I know people with PTSD, and it’s very real and very hard. But it doesn’t change your core character,” Taya Kyle said. “I have a feeling the trial is going to be a beat-down. And yet there’s no place I’d rather be. Everywhere I can be supporting Chris and standing up for him. I will always be there.”

    LaLa84

    I have to say, Kyle's wife is absolutely wrong that PTSD doesn't change your core character. Clearly she doesn't know as much about the disorder as she thinks.

    BcAtl

    My cousin has it and it changed him completely! He accidentally shot a child while in Iraq and hasn't been him self since. It does change people, even the very base of their personality! It's sad to see too.

    LaLa84

    You're right, it's very sad. What's even more tragic is that the VA's and our country just brush war ptsd sufferers to the side and don't provide them the proper care they need.

    mommyof2

    I agree. My ex was in Iraq when we were still together. He accidentally shot a woman while on a mission. He was never the same. I'm not sure how he is today, we stopped keeping in touch after we broke up. But the 2 years we were together after he came back he was a changed man.

    Marinewife

    I think it is so sad that good soldiers dealing with the horrors of war are labeled as "abnormal" by some. I believe that is so sickening! Human beings should not take joy in killing others, even in war. The men who come home and have to deal with combat kills, much less a mistaken civilian kill, and are forever changed need to know they are not crazy in their countries eyes! It's our responsibility to give these soldiers EVERY tool they could possibly need to get better. I will forever believe that. However, I do not believe a savage who brags over every kill like a trophy is an American hero either.

    aggiemom

    Interesting that a veterans' group, The Warfighter Foundation, says that Eddie Routh never saw combat. He was stationed at a very large base in Iraq and was assigned to guarding prisoners, who were Muslim, which he expressed sympathy for to his family.

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  6. Routh was certifiably mentally ill. Goodness knows what all was wrong with him - but it was known before this happened that he was extremely psychotic. If ever someone wasn't responsible for his actions - this guy is it. Do you think that he had any concept of someone trying to help him at that time? You clearly don't understand mental illness. This guy was literally living in another universe when he did this. You can't treat him like a sane person who understands their actions.

    "This dude is straight up nuts."
    "Maybe he'll get better if we give him a gun."

    Routh, who had been in and out of mental hospitals for at least two years before their encounter and was diagnosed with schizophrenia and psychosis, among other ailments. His family says he also suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder from his time in the military.

    Kyle and Littlefield were texting each other about Routh while Routh sat in the back seat feeling eerily ignored or even taunted--there is still a missing piece to this puzzle. WHO gave him the guns once at the shooting range and WHY did they have their backs to Routh at the time of the shooting?

    I suspect that Routh knew and felt that Chris Kyle thought he was "straight up nuts", if what Routh's lawyer said about Chris Kyle is true. All I can say about this is if people are going to volunteer in helping people with PTSD and/or people with some form of mental illness, don't make fun of them. Be sincere and more importantly don't treat these people like they are straight up nuts. Such people still have the ability to feel.

    so the Sniper was helping a fellow vet deal with stress. The Sniper and a buddy take the guy out to the range. Then they ignore him on the ride over to the range.

    As many people have heard, when you are in a tight situation, the best thing to do with a crazy person is KEEP THEM TALKING. They always have something to say . . . and it keeps them from doing things like shooting you.

    He killed both in the back with two different weapons. In my mind all I can imagine is he picked the weapons up off the range table and shot both at the same time with two hands.

    More likely Routh shot one in the head, then the other in the head, and then put five more shots into one and six more shots into the other. How about ballistics? Did all 13 shots come from just one or two guns?

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  7. The TX statute for guilty by reason of insanity is a very difficult bar to meet. I'm surprised they even bother with it.

    So do you think this man will receive a fair trial in this town? Not very likely with no restrictions from the judge for prior knowledge of the story , movie, book.

    Is the jury in this case being sequestered because I cannot think of another trial where doing so would be more appropriate. Much of it is too late.

    Before the jury was even seated in this trial, but not too long before, the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott declared February 2, "Chris Kyle Day" in Texas. I do not have an opinion about Routh or what should happen to him (aside from being put to death) believe me, but WTF? I am sure the governor knew that a trial was soon to begin. Is the state begging for an appeal?
    But to have done this would pretty much make picking a truly unbiased jury very difficult, or impossible. And no change of venue, in-state, would help much. Grounds for appeal? Probably.

    "Judge Jason Cashon told jurors they could still serve even if they had seen the movie or read the book."
    There is only ONE outcome this guaranteed kangaroo court will accept.

    Texans have elevated Kyle to the status of a god.

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  8. Phyllis Anne

    I apologize for going off topic, but since drugs are so widely used for our Vets, and a huge implication in senseless killings such as Chris's murder, I feel that a bit of discussion about drugs used for other "illnesses" would be good. Always, in the beginning of taking the drugs, people have side effects, but they are told by the MD, or psych MD, to keep taking the drug and the side effects will be lessened. NOT TRUE! This guy, the shooter, may not even have a lucid memory of doing what he did because his brain was fried to the point of him having no logic or common sense of right and wrong!

    I was given an SSRI, and within the first 5 days of taking it, I had arm and hand/finger tremors so terrible that I could not even type 2 letters normally on a keyboard to save my soul. I couldn't even get my hands and fingers to type at all. It took 8 months for that side effect to go away. I swore off drugs. Unfortunately, during all my complaints and reports to my MD, I find that the MD NEVER documented a single complaint of pain or muscle loss at each monthly visit. Only charted...refuses to take statin and fenofibrate drugs/noncompliant with medications. Damn pathetic.

    Now, psychotropic medications, esp those people taking even ONE or MANY drugs, all the side effects combined. I've seen firsthand what massive quantities of drugs do to psych patients.

    I have issue with that is that the people who are given drugs, have LIKELY told the MDs about the side effects, and the MDs don't even listen, instead, continue to insist or convince you take the drug. Or you refuse to continue taking the drug (I'm a dumb RN I guess). A patient, whether a VET or Civilian does walk a fine line to be able to continue to receive pension/SSDI/ or other medical benefits when they refuse to take MD prescribed medications, regardless of whether they have a valid reason for refusal.

    The Drug Lobby and Big Pharma is in the market of greed just to make $$$$, and are deep under the bedcovers with government and to cause irreparable harm to as many people as possible in insidious ways. Okay, @obamathemarxist, you got me started on Statin drugs. At one point, I was convinced by my MD, to take statins. I did take for 1 1/2 years and suffered horrid muscle pain and concentration camp like muscle loss and of course extreme physical weakness. I stopped taking them and it has been a very slow climb back to health. I feel after taking the statin that it has aged me physically 20 years or more. 3 years later I'm now halfway back to good health. Drug free!

    After that, and doing much research on cholesterol drugs, I find that the widely used statin drug's nickname is THE PREMATURE AGING DRUG. And in the last few days, I was doing research on MK-ULTRA and Project Paperclip, and one of their many heinous goals, was to find ways to cause people to age rapidly, and mental deterioration. Gee whiz......BINGO! ((Wikipedia, for once, had a pretty good text on both subjects)).

    They did find what they were looking for and statin drugs sell billions of dollars worth a year! The chol numbers they give us as healthy, are simply fear tactics to scare people and sell more drugs. My mother is 88, chol level of 270 for over 30 years, and is doing just fine without statins.

    First, do no harm. Geesh, MDs are medieval minded by greed. Psych drugs and statins are the Cash Cow for Big Pharma. Drugs for Kids!!! Heinous!!! There are many other drugs too in the cash cow category.
    I feel sadness for our Vets. I feel sadness for people and children too.

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  9. EDDIE RAY ROUTH TIMELINE:

    Military service: Corporal, U.S. Marine Corps; served from June 19, 2006, to June 18, 2010, with service in Operation Iraqi Freedom from 2007 to 2008 and in Haiti in early 2010; also served with the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit aboard the USS Bataan in 2009.

    June 2006 - Joined the Marines one week after graduating high school, stationed at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.

    September 2007 - March 2008 - Served in Iraq; stationed at Balad Air Base.

    2009 - Served with the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit aboard the USS Bataan.

    January 19, 2010 - April 2010 - Haitian Relief Mission after devasting earthquake on January 12, 2010.

    An earthquake on January 12, 2010 killed 230,000 people, injured about 300,000 and destroyed or severely damaged a quarter-million homes in Haiti, an incomprehensible tragedy in the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. North Carolina-based 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit deployed from Camp Lejeune, N.C., to the Caribbean nation aboard several amphibious ships that were ordered to prepare for deployment January 13, 2010. "I don't know yet the scope of the tragedy, but it's very severe," Commandant Gen. James Conway said. "The 22nd MEU is going over, which recently returned from theater and is not yet disbanded. It'll be going along with three to four [amphibious] ships. The timeline is to be determined, but there is a sense of urgency throughout the [U.S.] government that says sooner is better than later because we're still in the rescue mode." Scores of bodies were found in a mass graves. Mass graves are being used out of necessity, in order to get the bodies off the streets and to prevent the spread of disease.

    June 18, 2010 - Routh honorably discharged from active duty; placed on reserve duty status.

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  10. EDDIE RAY ROUTH TIMELINE:

    July 23, 2011 - Routh voluntarily admitted himself to VA hospital for the first time.

    July 30, 2011 - Routh thought he had a tapeworm; sister took him to the VA hospital against his will.

    March 2012 - He met his girlfriend in March 2012 on dating website; started dating casually.

    May 2012 - He and girlfriend became exclusive.

    September 2012 - Hospitalized at mental hospital then the VA hospital after threatening to kill himself and his family during an argument with his father at a backyard fish fry.

    Routh lived with Jennifer Weed for a little less than a month in December 2012, no outbursts; decided it was too soon to live together, so he returned to his parents' home.

    January 19, 2013 - Hospitalized at mental hospital then the VA hospital after refusing to allow his girlfriend and her roommate to leave their apartment.

    That morning, Routh was shaking sweating profusely. Jennifer wanted to leave, but Routh grabbed ninja sword and said, "No, you can’t leave." Routh said “They’re coming to get us, don’t let them in.” Routh then got a knife from kitchen. The roommate was in her own room at the time. Jennifer texted roommate, saying to stay in there and warned her Routh was in a mood. He put down weapons whenever Weed walked toward him. She testified that he didn’t threaten her with the weapons. Routh said he would protect them all. Routh kept saying they couldn't leave the apartment because people were out to get them. Jen's roomate had second job and needed to leave. Roommate texted a police officer and he came. [This went on for two hours before roommate texted police, and afterward he wasn't allowed back to her apartment.] Eddie was taken to Green Oaks mental hospital then sent to the VA hospital. Jennifer Weed testifying about Routh holding her and roomate hostage. Jen visited him at the VA hospital. He was apologetic but had no recollection of what happened.

    He was hospitalized for a week and released in January 2013. The next few days were difficult. Jen, who is Catholic, said that Routh was fixated on “demons and devils.” He went with her to Mass on Sunday, hoping that it would help him. At home with Jodi, he fluctuated between being angry and wound up, and being dazed and emotionless. “I could see him having flashbacks,” Jodi recalled. “You know when you’re daydreaming? You just kind of get that glaze in your eyes? That was what was happening to Eddie. I knew what he was seeing was not good, ’cause he looked like a scared little child. He didn’t look like a man.” At night, he popped out of bed at the slightest sound, running into Jodi’s bedroom to make sure that she was safe. “I thought someone was trying to get you,” he told her. During the day, Jodi said, “he still wasn’t able to carry on a good conversation. He wasn’t making good sense. He was crying a lot. He would come lay down in our bedroom. We’d bring in the dog and lay in the bed and he’d say, ‘Mom, will you hold my hand? I’m so scared. I don’t feel good. I’m not good.’ ” As Jodi held him, Routh said, “I just wish you could be in my head for just a second, just so you could know what I’m feeling like.” “I wish I could,” Jodi told him. “I would take it from you.”

    January 30, 2013 - He went for a follow up visit with his mother, who begged them to admit him. He just wasn’t capable of speaking for himself,” she told the reporter. She explained to the psychiatrist that Routh wasn’t sleeping and “couldn’t think straight.” She pleaded with the psychiatrist to readmit him to the hospital, where “he’s not going to be a danger to others or to himself.” But the psychiatrist, according to Routh's mother, shook his head and said that hospitalization wasn’t necessary. Routh's mother then asked the psychiatrist if he could refer Routh to a residential program for people with PTSD, in Waco, Texas. The psychiatrist told her, “He’s not stable enough for that program.”

    February 2, 2013 - At age 25, confessed to shooting and killing Chris Kyle and Chad Littlefield.

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  11. EDDIE RAY ROUTH TIMELINE:

    December 25, 2014 - 'American Sniper' movie released in select theaters

    January 16, 2015 - 'American Sniper' movie goes to wide release

    January 30, 2015 - Texas governor declares every February 2nd "Chris Kyle Day"

    February 2, 2015 - Two-year anniversay of murders

    February 5, 2015 - Jury selection for Eddie Ray Routh trial begins.

    February 11, 2015 - Trial begins (jury consists of 10 women and 2 men)

    January 15, 2015 - Academy Award nominations announced: 'American Sniper' nominated for Best Picture, Best Actor, Film Editing, Sound Editing, Sound Mixing, and Adapted Screenplay.

    Movie did not receive any nominatons from the awards leading up to the Oscars; i.e. Golden Globes or Screen Actors Guild, which is unprecedented.

    February 22, 2015 - Academy Awards ceremony.

    February 24, 2015 - Trial closing arguments.

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  12. Juries like those in Chris Kyle case hear little of how those found insane live
    The Dallas Morning News
    February 20, 2015

    “Our mission is treatment and recovery, not punishment,” said Carrie Williams, a spokeswoman for the Texas Department of State Health Services. “Our whole focus is empowering patients to become responsible for their own lives.”

    Routh would go to one of two state mental health maximum-security facilities. Both are in small towns: Rusk, in East Texas, and Vernon, near the Panhandle.

    If Routh is sent to the Vernon campus, which has 274 maximum-security beds, he would be assessed and assigned to one of the hospital’s two units, said Kelly Goodness, a former chief forensic psychologist at one of the Vernon units. Adults at Vernon are placed there through courts and the Texas Department of Mental Health and Mental Retardation.

    Goodness said the Maple unit’s patients are more introverted and less prone to outbursts except at predictable times, such as when staff requires them to attend classes or therapy.

    She said that at the Behavior Management Treatment Program unit, patients are more unpredictable.

    Routh spent time at Terrell State Hospital before the trial.

    Goodness said that people found not guilty by reason of insanity typically are stable when they arrive at Vernon because they received medication while in custody.

    “But they still need to have treatment and be assessed over a long period of time to see if anything is going to trigger violence and if so, what to do about that,” Goodness said.

    And since the mentally ill often self-medicate with illegal narcotics — prosecutors have argued that Routh abused alcohol and drugs — substance-abuse classes are a major component of many patients’ treatment programs.

    Haynes said Routh’s attorneys “have my respect and sympathy” for pursuing the not-guilty verdict.

    “It’s kind of like going out your front door and going out to your front lawn to get your newspaper and finding a unicorn grazing there,” he said. “It’s hard to sell this defense. Juries are hostile to it.”

    Robbie McClung, a defense attorney who has represented high-profile mentally ill clients, said prisons aren’t equipped to deal with the mentally ill, who need to be medicated. But she said juries aren’t educated on mental illness treatment.

    “They don’t get told how the insanity process works,” she said. “They are never told the lengths of stay and know what the regimen is to get someone out of the hospital once they’ve been found not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect. They think the person just walks out the door.”

    Getting out isn’t easy. McClung said the hospital staff might find that a patient improved enough to be released and start outpatient treatment. Then the decision is up to a judge.

    Haynes said persuading a judge that the patient is not a threat might be difficult — especially when the patient was demonstrably violent at least once in his or her life. McClung said some patients remain a risk to themselves or others.

    “Most of the clients I’ve had that are committed to the hospital are more than likely not ever going to be able to get out,” McClung said.

    Even if patients are released, the judge can place restrictions on them.

    “The hospital can’t just say that they are cured, bye-bye, here’s your bus pass home,” McClung said.

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