Friday, March 20, 2015

Dr. Phil Interviews Eddie Ray Routh's Parents and Sister After the Verdict

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"The ones in the sky are the ones that fly, you know what I mean, the pigs." - Eddie Ray Routh, February 2, 2013, Videotaped Police Interrogation

It took two years for Eddie Ray Routh to face murder charges in the killings of the former Navy SEAL sniper Chris Kyle and his friend in 2013, and two weeks for his trial to conclude. In the end, a jury of 10 women and two men took about two hours, including breaking to eat dinner, to reject Mr. Routh’s claims that he was legally insane, find him guilty and, in effect, send him to prison for life. The case attracted global attention as it coincided with the release of the Oscar-nominated movie “American Sniper,” which is based on Mr. Kyle’s experience in Iraq as the military’s deadliest sniper. At the time of the trial, the movie was the number one film at the box office, setting records, and and had been nominated for six Academy Awards (the awards ceremony was televised two days before the jury reached its verdict). “The seriousness of any murder case always depends in some part on who is dead.” [Source]
For Chris Kyle’s killer, Eddie Ray Routh, life in prison may make jail an asylum

By The Washington Post
February 25, 2015

The man who killed Navy SEAL sniper Chris Kyle is likely to spend the rest of his life in prison.
Based on what we know about former Marine Eddie Ray Routh, it is not hard to figure out how that might go.

In the two years since Routh has been jailed awaiting trial, he has attacked his guards and been placed on suicide watch. While in solitary confinement, he was reportedly strapped to a chair. In another episode, Routh ripped a television from the wall and tried to flood his cell with water from the shower.
Tumultuous would be an understatement.

During his trial, a defense expert concluded that Routh suffered from paranoid schizophrenia – and medicine for the disorder (along with recreational drugs) was found by police in Routh’s home.  But that diagnosis was questioned and undercut by the prosecutor’s expert witness, who argued instead that Routh knew that killing “American Sniper” author Kyle and a friend, Chad Littlefield, was wrong.


But testimony also revealed that in the minds of his family – which endured a constant struggle with Routh’s apparently deteriorating mental state – and even according to Kyle, who called Routh “nuts” on the day of the fatal shooting — there is no question that Eddie Ray Routh is a troubled man.
Soon, he will be one of thousands of U.S. prisoners institutionalized with serious mental health problems.

A recent report from the Vera Institute of Justice made the case that incarceration has become society’s solution for dealing with the mentally disturbed. Rates of mental illness in jails are four to six times higher than in the general population, the report said. Some 14 percent of men and 31 percent of women in America’s jails have serious mental problems that include “bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, and major depression,” according to one study highlighted in the report.

Jails, the report says, have become the new asylums.
“Jails have been described as the ‘treatment of last resort’ for those who are mentally ill and as ‘de facto mental hospitals,’” the report said, “because they fill the vacuum created by the shuttering of state psychiatric hospitals and other efforts to deinstitutionalize people with serious mental illness during the 1970′s, which occurred without creating adequate resources to care for those displaced in the community.”
With the jury swiftly handing down a guilty verdict in Routh’s capital murder trial on Tuesday, the debate about the veracity of his family’s claims that his mental state was compromised at the time of the murder is essentially over.
There will be no such debate for the people guarding Routh, wherever he is ultimately incarcerated. And based on Routh’s past actions in jail, they will be dealing with someone who has acted in unpredictable and potentially dangerous ways.

Yet in prison, he will be one of many others just like him — men (and women) convicted of serious, often violent crimes and imprisoned with serious, often untreated mental illness. As they have in the past, authorities may resort to containment strategies — including solitary confinement – that advocacy organizations have linked to mental distress.

Those who knew and loved Chris Kyle believe that the ravages of prison are the price Routh must pay for his heinous act of murder. They have from the very beginning discounted any claims that Routh had post-traumatic stress disorder. And even if he did, they rejected the idea that Routh’s mental illness should change the way the justice system deals with his acts of murder.

On Facebook after the verdict was announced, Marcus Luttrell, a Navy SEAL veteran and friend of Kyle’s, issued an ominous warning – making it clear that he believes prison is where Routh’s mental state will be tested even further.
“To Eddie Ray Routh, you thought you had PTSD before .?? Wait till the boys in TDC Find out you killed a TX hero,” he wrote.
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12 comments:

  1. IjonTichy
    2/25/2015 8:58 PM EDT

    The American Sniper Kyle was shot with a .45 and his amigo Littlefield was shot with a 9 mm. When police arrested Routh they found the 9 mm on him that he allegedly shot Littlefield with but not the .45 that he allegedly shot Kyle with. This would suggest that at least one other shooter - a contract killer hired by his wife and Eastwood's production team. Kyle - a scoundrel and a thug by his own admission and a lover of the media limelight - was hurting the film's PR through his persistent moronic blathering as a guest on Fox Fact Free News, so its entirely understandable why Eastwood and his compatriots would want him taken out. As for Taya, who admits she knew Routh's mother personally, well, that's a no brainer - she gets to inherit all royalties from the film plus his life savings. What a terrific display of crocodile tears at the the trial, BTW, on her part. Routh, with a history of mental illness going back before he joined the Marines, most certainly meets the criteria for a psychotic patsy - was he part of an militarized MKULTRA program? Note: how Routh's trial (Routh who was arrested almost two years ago) was timed to coincide perfectly with the release of Eastwood's film.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/02/25/for-chris-kyles-killer-life-in-prison-may-make-prison-an-asylum/

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  2. Jakob Stagg
    2/25/2015 3:33 PM EDT

    Prison = Asylum. That has been the plan for over 20 years as the mental health system has been dismantled. Putting a wacko in prison makes prison conditions worse. It makes mental health care for the deranged nearly impossible. Nobody likes it, not even the inmates. Nobody cares enough to do anything different, particularly politicians eyeballing outsourcing and handing off responsibility.

    In this case, execution would be a kindness for all parties concerned, which is why it didn't happen.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/02/25/for-chris-kyles-killer-life-in-prison-may-make-prison-an-asylum/

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  3. Norm Schultz
    2/25/2015 3:02 PM EDT

    Pretty sad that this whole event seems to focus on the killing of the great Chris Kyle and Littlefield is just kind of a side note. I think Routh was mentally unstable, and his story, that he believed Littlefield and Kyle were out to kill him is understandable since both Littlefield and Kyle both were wearing sidearms.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/02/25/for-chris-kyles-killer-life-in-prison-may-make-prison-an-asylum/

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    1. Except that it's Texas, in the country, and they were on their way to a shooting range, and they were marksmen -- so some of us see absolutely nothing unusual about that at all. You must not be from Texas...

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  4. quixotic-jo
    2/25/2015 2:37 PM EDT

    Kyle knew that Routh had mental issues when he took him to the gun range.

    There is no doubt that Routh murdered Kyle and Littlefield, and we would all be safer with Routh incarcerated somewhere.

    There is also no doubt that he was psychotic when he committed these murders.

    Today's news reports do not mention what was reported about Routh back in 2012 and 2013.

    Reported on Feb 4 2013

    The 25-year-old man (Routh) accused in this weekend’s killing of Kyle and Littlefield was taken to a mental hospital in September 2012 after “threatening to kill himself and his family,” according to a Lancaster police report.

    On Jan. 19, a woman had called police to an apartment complex in the 7600 block of Churchill Way in North Dallas because she feared for Routh’s safety.

    Routh was in distress and wanting to get help, so police officers took him to Green Oaks for a mental health evaluation.

    That was his second trip to the psychiatric hospital in four months.

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  5. N369RM
    2/25/2015 2:23 PM EDT

    I hate to say it, but odds are pretty good that he will either die from his own hand or someone else's.

    Life in prison will probably be nasty, brutish and short.

    ZAMBEZI
    2/25/2015 2:03 PM EDT

    Why is this national news?

    Veterans are murdered and/or commit suicide all the time.

    sainttammany
    2/25/2015 2:20 PM EDT

    Yes you are right. I was administrator of a very large mental hospital when Reagan's actions caused the wholesale release. We put 100s of them on buses to the place their record showed as their last address. That was the beginning of the decline of mental health treatment in this country. Many of those were Veterans, and many of those Veterans ended up in jail. Jail and Mental Health Treatment are not interchangeable. We need a robust healthcare system that we can all depend on, like say Japan.

    gussierose
    2/25/2015 5:44 PM EDT

    the va hospital that was treating routh released him 5 days bwefore the murders even though his psychiatrist claimed he was a danger to himself and others. obviously right.

    Bill Wisniewski
    2/25/2015 1:44 PM EDT

    Did any geniuses ever discover what his motive was for murdering relative strangers?

    gussierose
    2/25/2015 5:45 PM EDT

    He's crazy!

    DonWilliams1
    2/25/2015 2:02 PM EDT

    I think people who have never been within 500 miles of an active battlefield should not shoot off their mouths about a Marine who served 8 months in Iraq [Routh].

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  6. DonWilliams1
    2/25/2015 1:24 PM EDT

    1) Eddie Routh didn't kill Chris Kyle. Bibi Netanyahu, Dick Cheney and the lies of the Iraq War killed Kyle. Anyone remember Joe Lieberman inviting Bibi in 2002 to tell the US Congress and the American People about Saddam's nukes? Did Bibi ever find those nukes ? The families of 4500 dead soldiers -- and of thousands more who came back home missing an arm, leg or eye to face a 13% unemployment rate -- might like to know.

    2) And meanwhile the Great Brothel known as the US Congress lines up to hear some more stories from Bibi -- and to sell the lives of 10,000 more US soldiers to billionaires Haim Saban and Sheldon Adelson in exchange for another $170 million or so in campaign donations. And "journalists" working for billionaires Rupert Murdoch and Philip Anshutz crank up another "narrative".

    3) Why are we fighting overseas when the real enemies of the American People are so obviously here at home?

    DonWilliams1
    2/25/2015 1:35 PM EDT

    What was "indestructible" was George W Bush's Big Lie -- that Sept 11 occurred because "they hate our freedoms". The New York Times and US TV networks interpreted freedom of the press as freedom to bury and conceal the 1997 interviews Bin Laden gave in which he cited the three reasons Al Qaeda was declaring war:

    (1) Washington's provision of advanced weapons like the F16s to Israel and the Likud's use of those weapons to kill Palestinian civilians

    (2) US support of the Saudi dictatorship for decades in exchange for Big Oil being allowed to steal the oil of the Saudi People

    (3) Bill Clinton's massacre of 500,000 Iraqi children via cholera by banning import of water purification materials after bombing the water plants of Iraq -- thereby forcing people in a desert to drink polluted water.

    And America's freedom was freedom to listen to the deceit of the Rich -- but never the freedom to ask how their agenda was to the benefit of America. Even with 13,000 dead and $13 trillion more in debt.

    jobro1
    2/25/2015 4:15 PM EDT

    "the real enemies of the American People are so obviously here at home"

    Yeah, I'll remember that the next time ISIS slices open the throat of another American citizen.
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    DonWilliams1
    2/25/2015 4:49 PM EDT

    Well, if they do it in America, let me know. Assuming you can distinguish them from all the other killers in our poor areas that don't have adequate police protection. Places like Camden NJ and Chester PA have worse homicide rates than Fallujah -- and I don't see any Congressmen getting excited. Even when the death toll is 12,000+ each YEAR. And if you look at how our suicide rate has soared since 2008, it is clear that the crooks on Wall Street have killed more Americans than Al Qaeda. But I don't see anyone sending SEAL Team Six to Wall Street.

    In the meantime, the State Department routinely issues travel warnings telling American civilians to stay out of war torn areas. If some morons choose to ignore those warnings, then let them deal with the consequences. The lives of US soldiers shouldn't be sacrificed to rescue irresponsible idiots.

    willmc4
    2/25/2015 1:35 PM EDT

    Kyle ended up as the collateral damage of all the lies and was himself completely insane.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/02/25/for-chris-kyles-killer-life-in-prison-may-make-prison-an-asylum/

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  7. johnw3318
    2/25/2015 1:38 PM EDT

    Where is the real reporting? Where was the WP when we were being lied to about WMDs? Do you take any responsibility for destabilizing the Middle East, maiming and killing a few thousand Americans and upwards of 150,000 Iraqis? Leadership? Respect? Do those words mean anything to you? I'm still waiting for you guys to put something out that doesn't smell like propaganda. I'll check in every now and then, but I'm not holding my breath.

    satxusa
    2/25/2015 1:25 PM EDT

    "[jails and prisons] fill the vacuum created by the shuttering of state psychiatric hospitals and other efforts to deinstitutionalize people with serious mental illness during the 1970′s."

    This was the One Flew Over the Cuckoo Nest era when do-gooders tried to say it was cruel to warehouse the insane -- bringS to mind there is nothing so bad it can't be made worse. Sure there were inappropriately institutionalized folks, but large numbers simply moved under bridges and slept on grates to keep warm while others killed and terrorized their families and communities.

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  8. Ike Diamond

    Most antidepressant drugs have clear warning regarding other "direct" effects such as homicidal and suicidal impulses. Big Pharma did them all in!

    Cynthia Quen

    Psychosis is not predicated on combat service. This man has been sick for a long time. PTSD doesn't require combat service either. It can be any trauma, like rape, a beating, or a bad car accident. Until we restore funding for mental health services, we will continue to see more tragedies. Can't we at least keep guns out of the hands of mental health patients?

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/02/19/american-sniper-trial/23659401/

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  9. Janes

    This is a tragedy for all involved

    Still I do not understand why Routh did what he did

    To say "he was a person of bad character who drank to excess and smoked weed" was motive enough for the jury, but that is too simplistic.

    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20150225-american-sniper-jurors-ex-marine-knew-right-from-wrong.ece

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  10. Who cares if this guy was insane or not. Gotta lock him up somewhere. You want this guy on the street so he can shoot you in the head cause he felt like he you didn't want to talk to him. There is no cure insanity or schizophrenia other than meds and being locked up in a straight jacket. Screw this guy and and one that defends this piece of trash.

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  11. MagicLougie, can you get in touch with me please? I'm interested in your research into Eddie and would like to ask a few things.

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